Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 21:09:42 -0800 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 230 Message-ID: <657BDF96.4442@ix.netcom.com> References: <656ED254.756A@ix.netcom.com> <656EE1DB.56BF@ix.netcom.com> <656EE374.4D5@ix.netcom.com> <657155C2.6A6B@ix.netcom.com> <65721569.5DAA@ix.netcom.com> <6573629D.193D@ix.netcom.com> <657498FA.1158@ix.netcom.com> <6574B683.6DB2@ix.netcom.com> <65753DBB.20A9@ix.netcom.com> <65761CFF.5953@ix.netcom.com> <6576A81C.7F4E@ix.netcom.com> <6577432F.3C89@ix.netcom.com> <657970D2.4FD6@ix.netcom.com> <657A9D36.7558@ix.netcom.com> <657AB683.2A3A@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a77b3e334e047236bd0d4601503fb1e6"; logging-data="1886377"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19IKP8Qg6I7zGzYRrZzBJU4Yu/La9Tfpow=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:02G1vEVb+yg8xCgWVZeDzX8wlX4= X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 231214-2, 12/14/2023), Outbound message Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:625818 sci.physics:883727 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:2722355 Physfitfreak wrote: > > On 12/14/2023 2:02 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Physfitfreak wrote: > >> > >> On 12/14/2023 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you > >>>>>>>>>>>>> aware of that???? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth > >>>>>>>>>>> or humans..." > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Read Sagan books. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a > >>>>>>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and > >>>>>>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Turn on the TVeee > >>>>>>>>> turn off the volume.. > >>>>>>>>> and watch what you call > >>>>>>>>> people on tv. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> After a while you won't know > >>>>>>>>> what they are... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Did Sagan say all that? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" > >>>>>>> --Carl Sagan > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself > >>>>>> everytime he repeats it... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules > >>>>>> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ > >>>>>> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was > >>>>>> just a ...Rain Forest. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Now, all noise aside... > >>>>> > >>>>> while the rain forest was busy > >>>>> making a river > >>>>> to an ocean... > >>>>> > >>>>> you need fishes > >>>>> to fill the ocean. > >>>>> > >>>>> Trees make the ocean, and trees also > >>>>> make the fishes. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The leaves > >>>>> that fall in the water > >>>>> turn into...fishes. > >>>>> > >>>>> From Leaves to Fishes. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: > >>>>> > >>>>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Trust the science. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. > >>> > >>> Lots of science people claim to read...books, but they don't.. > >>> > >>> If you read Sagan you would know he said the first ocean was formed by...trees. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> That's not what I remember. > > > > You mean...'you don't recall.' You don't remember what you never > > read...i understand that. > > > > To be fair, I don't expect you to remember ...everything he wrote, or > > anything. > > > > > >> He said oceans were first made. In fact the > >> first form of life itself was some unicellular thing that was formed > >> inside the ocean! :) Trees evolved way later than that first appearance > >> of life. > > > > You continue to show you don't remember...anything. ignorance is a > > bliss, isn't it? > > You seem to lack A LOT of knowledge of what Carl Sagan said and wrote. > > > > First you say: "He said oceans were first made.", but you don't say How. > > > > Second you say 'life was formed inside the ocean, then trees evolved > > later. > > > > > > You lack knowledge on the first part, and the second part you are > > rembering completely... WRONG! > > > > Completely opposite!! > > > > > > Layman book???? > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember that I said I don't recall. I remember that I said I > remember. okay, here are the order of events by Carl Sagan... 'trees formed the primitive atmosphere of earth and the first oceans.' should be easy for you to understand as layman as I could put it. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.