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patdolan wrote:
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> On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 7:10:42 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 6:16:27 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 5:53:45 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 9:21:08 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 8:35:08 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 6:39:34 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 5:29:42 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > In astronomy if gravity slows down rotation
> > > > > > > > where is the evidence?
> > > > > > > > The age of the universe would show most
> > > > > > > > objects should have already.
> > > > > > > > But they all have significant rotations.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > > Mitch, my man, somewhere I read that Mach's principle is the reason for inertia. One conclusion that can be drawn from Mach's principle is the concept of "rotational entropy" which can be understood as the requirement that 1) all local rotational motion is decreasing, and 2) mediated by Mach's principle, all local rotational motion is imparted to the total rotational motion of the entire universe. This transfer continues until such time as what may be considered the final rotational
> > > > > > That would predict rotational chaos.
> > > > > > And it does not exist.
> > > > > > The universe as a whole does not have a center of which to rotate around.
> > > > > > If mach predicted rotation to go away why hasn't it?
> > > > > > That form of motion is not going away....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The precession of the gyroscope is a piece of a posteriori synthetic knowledge which, while it can be precisely described by mathematical expressions, is an utter mystery as to why it occurs in the first place. The gravity-defying free end of a spinning gyroscope constitutes a perfectly consistent proof of the existence of God.
> > > > Don't we push its rotation?
> > > > The earth is not a gyroscope. Its turning cancels its primary G weight.
> > > > There is more weight at the pole for the same energy/mass than
> > > > at the rotating equator.
> > > > > > A gyroscope gets braced in space by horizontal rotation weight.
> > > > > > If it is tilted its rotation weight goes away.
> > > > > The gyroscopic phenomenon is epi-Newtonian and epi-Hamiltonian. We have no mechanics that fully describe it. There is no equation in mechanics that relates a force vector at the unsupported end of a rotating mass to the gravitational field vector at the unsupported end of a rotating mass. And that is and end to it, Mitch.
> > > > It is the orientation that changes the turning gyroscope weight in gravity.
> > > > A turning wheel on the road will have almost no vertical rotation weight.
> > > Mitch, do you have a toy gyroscope? Get it out then post to me. We will perform a demonstration right here in this in real time.
> > No I don't.
> > I believe weight brace is going away where you tilt it.
> No worries Mitch.  I have a wonderful toy gyroscope which I keep on the same shelf as my teddy bears.  It weights almost two pounds, is over 6 inches in diameter, is enclosed in a plastic cover, and has a cranking port so I can really whip up the rpms.
> 
> I have attached a string to the ceiling.  I am now dangling the gyroscope from that string while holding the other end with my fingers.  The axis is level and parallel with the floor.  It is not spinning.  Now I'm letting go with my fingers.  The gyroscope rotated down 90 degrees so that it is now dangling from the ceiling with the axis now vertical to the floor--string end is high and the other end I held in my fingers is low.  Now I'll bring the axis back up to level with the floor and spin up
> 
> Okay, the gyro is really humming!  The string and my fingers are holding the axis level to the floor again.  Now I'm going to let go with my fingers....LOOK AT THAT!  The loose end doesn't rotate down this time!  Yes, it's precessing.  But the precession is far less dramatic and far less interesting than the gravity-defying end of the gyro hanging there in mid air.  The axis is absolutely level with the floor and no visible means of support.
> 
> This MIT schiester thinks he has solved the riddle https://youtu.be/XPUuF_dECVI?si=OnAfXs6N_jn0LoM3&t=1698

if you are dangling the gyroscope from that string while holding the
other end with your fingers... you owe Einstein royaltities fees. 


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