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patdolan wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 12:11:27 PM UTC-8, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> > Den 23.11.2023 06:21, skrev patdolan:
> > >> On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 6:39:34 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> The precession of the gyroscope is a piece of a posteriori synthetic knowledge which, while it can be precisely described by mathematical expressions, is an utter mystery as to why it occurs in the first place. The gravity-defying free end of a spinning gyroscope constitutes a perfectly consistent proof of the existence of God.
> > >
> > > The gyroscopic phenomenon is epi-Newtonian and epi-Hamiltonian. We have no mechanics that fully describe it. There is no equation in mechanics that relates a force vector at the unsupported end of a rotating mass to the gravitational field vector at the unsupported end of a rotating mass.
> > A gyroscope is perfectly described by Newtonian Mechanics.
> > There are no mysteries, it all follows from Newton's laws
> > of motion. If you are reasonably intelligent, you should
> > be able to understand how said laws of motion make a gyroscope
> > in a gravitational field precess without divine help.
> >
> > --
> > Paul
> >
> > https://paulba.no/
> 
> Newton's laws only describe the precession of the angular momentum vector of a gyroscope when a force vector is crossed with that angular momentum vector.  Newton's law give no hint, and have no clue as to why the direction of a gyroscope's angular momentum vector desires to remain unchanged with respect to the rest of the universe in the first place.   Or what type of field, if any, that angular momentum field is coupling with in order to maintain its orientation to the universe
> 
> This desire even counteracts the force of gravity.  As long as the angular momentum vector's magnitude (not it's direction) remains unchanged, the free end of a gyroscope will not fall in a gravitational field.  Instead it will precess at the at a constant z coordinate value and maintain a constant gravitational potential.  Why the free end of the gyroscope desires to precess instead of desiring to fall to a lower gravitational potential, is a complete mystery to modern mechanics.




from where i'm standing the sun rotates around the earth and the moon.



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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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