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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: What is mass? 350 years of not knowing it. |
| Date | 2022-12-14 22:00 -0800 |
| Organization | The Starmaker Organization |
| Message-ID | <639AB80C.57@ix.netcom.com> (permalink) |
| References | <a77344dd-a0a8-4d35-8a2b-d0f961554d80n@googlegroups.com> |
Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> Newton didn't know of atoms and subatomic particles. Neither Maxwell,
> Gauss, Euler, Laplace, Le Verrier, Gerber and so many other scientists that
> developed theories using such concept.
>
> Lorentz had a clear vision of what mass of electrons were: in his 1904 paper,
> he asserted that mass was something of electromagnetic nature, at least for
> the electron. He also wrote: "I shall suppose that there is no other, no "true"
> or "material" mass."
>
> For Lorentz, electrons in state of rest had a mass m = e²/(6πc²R), [e value in electrostatic units or esu].
>
> 1 e = 4,774E-10 esu = 4,774E-10 √(g.cm³)/s, SO m has gram units.
>
> He surely knew that the potential energy outside a spherically symmetric
> charge distribution with total charge e sand radius R is given by:
>
> E = e²/(4πε₀R), with 4π included for reasons of spherical geometry, as the
> 6Ï€ in the electron mass.
>
> He missed connecting mass and energy, or he would have got
>
> m/E ∠1/c²
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_permittivity
>
> Einstein thought of mass in terms of INERTIA, as Galileo and Newton. That
> would be the "resistance" of matter to be put in motion or to be stopped
> from a uniform motion ("m.v" or "vis viva").
>
> Today, mass, in physics, is a quantitative measure of inertia, a fundamental property of all matter. It is, in effect, the resistance that a body of matter offers to a change in its speed or position upon the application of a force.
> That's highly esoteric: "fundamental property of all matter".
>
> In chemistry, mass is a measure of the amount of matter in a substance or an object.
>
> But, in reality, nobody knows. The same with electricity, magnetism, protons,
> muons, nuclear energy, cosmic rays and how is that a bicycle work.
>
> Maybe relativists can chip in with some insights.
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
If you understand the 'order of events'...
first comes 'heavens' then 'the earth'...the earth is Mass.
The big bang was the creation of...mass.
Before the big bang Mass didn't exist.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.
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