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Re: Please Explain Simultaneous Events in This Scenario

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Please Explain Simultaneous Events in This Scenario
Date 2022-09-29 23:15 -0700
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sepp623@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> Please explain how Einstein's concepts of simultaneous events works in this scenario.
> 
>    Now there is a second inertial reference frame F1.  Frame F1 is moving with velocity V along the x-axis relative to F0.  The velocity V is such that two  events one second apart across the length of L in F0 are  simultaneous in F1.  At the start of this scenario when the two motors are off, observers in F1 see that the two elastic bands wrap around each other 10 times just as it  is in F0.
>       Now F1 starts each motor in F0 simultaneously as viewed in F1. In F0 these two events occur 1 second apart. The motors rotate 10 revolutions per second. Since one motor rotates 10 times before the other motor starts its rotation, the two bands as seen in F0 unwind their intertwining of 10 rotations that the elastic bands had when the motors were turned off (assuming the rotation direction unwinds the elastic bands). So in F0 the two elastic bands no longer intertwine and they become parall
>       So what do observers in F1 see?  Before the rotations were started, each elastic band was wrapped around each other 10 times as observed both in F0 and F1.  If the rotations were started simultaneously in F1, do the F1 observers still say the two elastic bands are wrapped around each other 10 times?  If not, how do observers in F1 explain how the two elastic bands are now not wrapped around each other 10 times as they were when the rotations were started simultaneously in F1?
> Thanks,
> David Seppala
> Bastrop TX

"elastic bands"????  wat is dat, british talk? You mean 'rubber bands'! Only queers say elastic bands...you ain't no steer from texsas.




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Please Explain Simultaneous Events in This Scenario "sepp623@yahoo.com" <sepp623@yahoo.com> - 2022-09-29 20:56 -0700
  Re: Please Explain Simultaneous Events in This Scenario Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-09-29 22:04 -0700
    Re: Please Explain Simultaneous Events in This Scenario "sepp623@yahoo.com" <sepp623@yahoo.com> - 2022-10-01 04:41 -0700
      Re: Please Explain Simultaneous Events in This Scenario Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-10-01 09:26 -0700
        Re: Please Explain Simultaneous Events in This Scenario patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-10-01 09:30 -0700
  Re: Please Explain Simultaneous Events in This Scenario The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-09-29 23:15 -0700
    Re: Please Explain Simultaneous Events in This Scenario "sepp623@yahoo.com" <sepp623@yahoo.com> - 2022-09-30 16:35 -0700
      Re: Please Explain Simultaneous Events in This Scenario The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-09-30 22:32 -0700

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