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Re: What is a photon

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.math, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: What is a photon
Date 2025-06-18 10:15 +0200
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Am Dienstag000017, 17.06.2025 um 08:01 schrieb Bertitaylor:

>>>> My own explanation uses a concept of my own'theory', which I had named
>>>> 'structured spacetime'.
>>>>
>>>> In this concept electrons and protons are 'one thing', which is 
>>>> actually
>>>> a standing wave.
>>>>
>>>> That special kind of wave is a 'multiplicative' 'rotation wave'.
>>>>
>>>> My idea was, that spacetime of GR is actually real and composed of
>>>> 'elements' which behave like bi-quaternions.
>>>>
>>>> These have the tendency to connect 'sideways' to adjecent pointlike
>>>> elements, similar to how quaternions model rotations.
>>>>
>>>> The equation is simple:
>>>>
>>>> q' = p* q* p^-1
>>>>
>>>> Now we could assume, that such a behaviour could create 'standing
>>>> rotation waves', which are commonly called 'atoms'.
>>>>
>>>> The electron denotes in this picture the outer edge of this wave and 
>>>> the
>>>> inner turning point the core of that 'atom'.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore electron and proton are not real independent particles, but
>>>> certain points of a single structure.
>>>>
>>>> If now such a standing wave' gets hit by something, it could possibly
>>>> 'roll away'.
>>>>
>>>> This is a helical screw-like wave packet, which we usually call
>>>> 'photon'.
>>>>
>>>> If that gets block by some conducting metall plate, the helix bumps 
>>>> into
>>>> some structure, which blocks its movement.
>>>>
>>>> Then the helix is pushed back together and the remainder of electricity
>>>> is charging up the plate.
>>>>
>>>> My concept does sound certainly quite foolish.
>>>>
>>>> BUT: it simply doesn't matter, if we like how nature functions.
>>>>
>>>> As 'proof oc concept' I usually use 'Growing Earth' theory, because GE
>>>> and the standard model of QM directly contradict each other.
>>>>
>>>> And GE can be proven!
>>>> ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>
>>> Instead of all that stupid crap, why not return to the fact of aether as
>>> the solid fine elastic medium permeating the infinite and eternal
>>> universe?
>>
>> This has a reason, but a little complicated one:
>>
>> 'aether' is assumed as fine fluidlike substance, fills all of space.
> 
> Wrong. Aether is infinitely fine and infinitely elastic SOLID which
> means that all its elements stay fixed relative to each other UNLIKE a
> fluid.
> 
> Get your basics straight and do not lie.

Actually I had already written, that I think that 'aether' is wrong.

So: 'solid' wouldn't rescue the aether concept.

The aether is actually meant as 'stuff' (whether fluid or solid), while 
I wanted to make stuff out of spacetime.

My concept is related, but not equal to the 'aether concept' (which I 
think is wrong).

It is close, however.


TH
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      Re: What is a photon Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-15 10:56 +0200
        Re: What is a photon bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-15 09:52 +0000
          Re: What is a photon Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:16 +0200
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              Re: What is a photon Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:15 +0200
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