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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: energy and mass |
| Date | 2026-03-29 10:24 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n2s5cqFg8sdU9@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Am Samstag000028, 28.03.2026 um 06:23 schrieb Bill Sloman: > On 27/03/2026 7:25 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am Donnerstag000026, 26.03.2026 um 16:03 schrieb Bill Sloman: >> ... >>>>>> Only a small part of engineering is dealing with electronics. >>>>>> >>>>>> Engineers exist in several 'flavors', which range from building >>>>>> bridges to chemistry. >>>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> And you don't know much about any of them. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sure, I have never build a bridge. >>>> >>>> But I know a few things about electronics and chemistry. >>>> >>>> My specific 'flavour' is called 'economics engineering'. >>>> >>>> It is kind of mixture of economics and building machines. >>>> >>>> That is quite difficult and not a very common topic in other countries. >>>> >>>> (It's among the 'crown jewels' of German education.) >>> >>> My wife was a director of a Max Planck Institute. I do know a bit >>> about German education, and value engineering isn't one of it's crown >>> jewels. >>> >>> If you want to build a machine more cheaply, you don't study it's >>> economics, you study what it does and work out a way to do that >>> differently with a different, cheaper and faster machine. >>> >>> I'm aware that Fraunhofer Institutes tend to be more applied than Max >>> Planck Institutes, but I doubt that you work for any of them either. >>> >> 'Wirtschaftsingenuerswesen' is called 'Engineering managment' in English: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_management >> >> It's quite a difficult topic, at least in Germany, because you need to >> learn both 'engineering' and 'ecomomics'. >> >> The title I actually have is 'Dipl.-Ing.' and in English called >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Engineering_Management >> >> Btw: I have spent actually some time in the 'Fraunhofer Institute' of >> Berlin Charlottenburg and wrote my Diploma thesis for Prof. Spur. >> >> The rather strange thing was, that I have never seen Prof. Spur >> personally (not a single time!). > > The colloquial term for it in English is "management bull shit". > > The kind of managers who have been taught how to manage engineers have > been told that engineers procrastinate, and have to be pressured to make > up their minds rapidly. 'Wirtschaftsingenieurwesen' wasn't meant that way! It's is more like 'management by engineers' rather than 'management of engineers'. 'Wi.Ings.' are kind of 'special forces of the industry' and able to do many jobs, if necessary. ... TH
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Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-20 10:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-20 04:21 -0700
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-21 09:28 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-23 10:32 -0700
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-25 09:10 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 21:31 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-26 14:33 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-27 02:03 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-26 09:33 -0700
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Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-27 09:25 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-28 16:23 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-29 10:24 +0200
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-29 20:55 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-25 07:20 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 01:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 22:43 +0100
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Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-21 13:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 02:16 +1100
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