Re: energy and mass

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: energy and mass
Date	2026-03-26 14:11 +0100
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Am Mittwoch000025, 25.03.2026 um 09:36 schrieb Jeroen Belleman:
> On 3/25/26 03:55, john larkin wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 23:29:20 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/24/26 22:12, john larkin wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 21:41:09 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/24/26 20:44, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 19:25:31 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/24/26 13:46, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 10:20:02 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann 
>>>>>>>> <dk4xp@arcor.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 23.03.26 um 16:07 schrieb john larkin:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 08:48:12 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, I didn't mean the French and British camps, but the POW- 
>>>>>>>>>>> camps in the
>>>>>>>>>>> USA, to which about four million german soldiers were brought.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Most of the inmates of the 'Rheinwiesen'-camps.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What was the fate of those POWs, the US-forces shipped to the 
>>>>>>>>>>> sates?
>>>>>>>>>>> (allegedly that were roughly 4 million soldiers)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We boiled them and ate them, except in Texas they bbq'd.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> John Larkin
>>>>>>>>>> Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
>>>>>>>>>> Lunatic Fringe Electronics
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ... unless they were fellow law-abiding citizens of east
>>>>>>>>> Asian descend in 1942, these were sushi-fied.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> George Carlin put it better than I ever could:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_FQZUSy1Vg     >
>>>>>>>>> about halfway into the clip.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What a nasty creep. I bet he would have signed up for Nazi Youth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John Larkin
>>>>>>>> Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
>>>>>>>> Lunatic Fringe Electronics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's called 'parody'. The US definitely comes across as creepy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He makes a living out of being, well, what he has become.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The point shouldn't be about how bad people were 80 or 300 years ago.
>>>>>> What's important is how much we have improved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's wonderful around here. People are nice and friendly and helpful
>>>>>> and the weather is beautiful today. And the Canyon Market has a
>>>>>> holiday corned-beef reuben today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The internet isn't much like reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Larkin
>>>>>> Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
>>>>>> Lunatic Fringe Electronics
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask Iran, or Greenland, Denmark, or Venezuela. Trump is a creep
>>>>> and the US is a rogue, not to be trusted. I wish it wasn't true,
>>>>> but it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>>
>>>> Should Israel and the USA respect the soverignity of a place run by
>>>> murderous thugs, who are building ICBMs and nukes?
>>>
>>> Si vis pacem, para bellum. It's the same for any country.
>>>
>>> The US has been building nukes and ICBMs for decennia. I wouldn't
>>> be at all surprised to learn that the unrest in Iran was fomented
>>> by the US. It's completely in style.
>>
>> The US proposed a nuke-free world in 1946. The Russians wouldn't have
>> it.
>>
>>
>> John Larkin
>> Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
>> Lunatic Fringe Electronics
> 
> The US really wanted to remain the *only* nation to have
> the bomb.
> 
This is a quite natural wish, but unfortunately it is also impossible.

Knowledge distributes usually with an exponential function and that may 
seem like a good stopper for the distribution of secrets.

BUT: this does only slow down the distribution, but would not stop it 
entirely.

Even if you try very hard to protect your secrets, they will eventually 
leak out at unexpected places.

You could try to prevent such leaks, but you will always fail (on the 
long run).

It could take some time, but the more people try to crack the codes and 
steal the secrets, the more likely it will become, that valuable secrets 
leak through seemingly unbreakable walls.

TH

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                Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-24 19:25 +0100
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