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On 2017-12-30 15:02, krw@notreal.com wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 14:52:29 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:
>
>> Den lørdag den 30. december 2017 kl. 23.38.42 UTC+1 skrev Joerg:
>>> On 2017-12-30 14:11, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>>>> Den lørdag den 30. december 2017 kl. 23.01.05 UTC+1 skrev Joerg:
>>>>> On 2017-12-30 13:41, Andy wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-6,
>>>>>> pcdh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> That was at the beginning of my first self-employed foray, to
>>>>>>>> be able to design and test baseband sections for
>>>>>>>> Pulsed-Doppler. Turns out all my initial med tech projects
>>>>>>>> later were imaging projects so this painstakingly built box
>>>>>>>> never saw meaningful service. I did one small RF experiment
>>>>>>>> with that and promptly blew one of the four LH0063 by
>>>>>>>> accidentally transmitting 100W shortwave into it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I couldn't bring myself to do it yet but some day I'll just
>>>>>>>> have cut it loose. As we get older my wife's mantra has
>>>>>>>> become "Just get rid of it!" :-)>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you feel like fixing it instead, I'll happily donate an
>>>>>>> LH0063CK to the cause.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could show your better half this Paul Carlson video so she
>>>>>>> can see how well off she is. ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9Fb6RUMsk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phil Hobbs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice lab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Musta cost a pretty penny.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually not anymore unless you count the real estate costs. Nearly
>>>>> all of those boat anchor instruments can be bought cheaply because
>>>>> most younger engineers do not have the foggiest how to operate
>>>>> them. So they get ditched by large and small companies.
>>>>> Unfortunately sometimes literally. Pleany of stories where someone
>>>>> heard a vvrradda-BAM .. CRUNCH out in the parking lot. Turns out
>>>>> not to have been a fender bender but someone had just thrown an XYZ
>>>>> analyzer into the dumpster, with another stash of them waiting on
>>>>> the fork lift.
>>>>
>>>> and they don't have to be old or outdated, if the bean counters
>>>> decide they are worth the most as destroyed they go into the crusher
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bean counters are often not smart with those decisions. Many don't seem
>>> to understand that donating equipment would net the company a nice big
>>> tax deduction. Even if they'd just call in the guys from the next tech
>>> bone yard they'd at least get a small amount per pound of weight. Plus
>>> lower charges from the waste disposal service.
>>>
>>> Even my over 40 year old first oscilloscope still has a job. Not here
>>> but in a high school I donated it to. I didn't need a tax receipt, just
>>> wanted to make sure the kids have something that makes them literally
>>> see waveform changes as they create them.
>>>
>>> Really smart managers in high-tech companies maek sure there is a junk
>>> room where old gear is kept instead of tossed. Over my career that has
>>> saved the bacon many times. Occasionally I had to invest an hour or two
>>> of billed time but then the rejuvenated old analog scope diagnosed the
>>> problem they had been chasing for days.
>>
>> afaiu once it has been written off just keeping it in storage it is the same
>> as crushing it far tax goes it has no value but eventually you run out of space, if you sell it you probably have to jump through all kind of hoops to figure out how much was written off and how much you made selling it
>>
> There should be a database of all capital equipment, including its
> book value.  If the equipment is sold for more than its book value,
> sure, it's write-off has to be recaptured for tax purposes.  If for
> less, the difference is written off.  If it's crushed or donated it
> can be written off immediately, too.  I don't see the paperwork being
> all that much different.  It's what computers do.  The difference is
> that it takes work to find someone who wants it.


Last time it took me about 10 seconds. I simply asked a physics teacher. 
The times before that it was never more than a few minutes.

This goes for tech stuff though. For other things such as our Hammond 
organ that will be very different. Having spent a lot of time and money 
restoring it I hate to see it go but due to longterm consequences from a 
wrist fracture my wife can't play it anymore.


>  ... The dumpster is easy.
>

People should always ask themselves if the easy route is the proper way 
for society.

-- 
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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