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Re: Bread board etc.

From Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: Bread board etc.
Date 2017-12-30 14:38 -0800
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On 2017-12-30 14:11, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> Den lørdag den 30. december 2017 kl. 23.01.05 UTC+1 skrev Joerg:
>> On 2017-12-30 13:41, Andy wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-6,
>>> pcdh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> That was at the beginning of my first self-employed foray, to
>>>>> be able to design and test baseband sections for
>>>>> Pulsed-Doppler. Turns out all my initial med tech projects
>>>>> later were imaging projects so this painstakingly built box
>>>>> never saw meaningful service. I did one small RF experiment
>>>>> with that and promptly blew one of the four LH0063 by
>>>>> accidentally transmitting 100W shortwave into it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't bring myself to do it yet but some day I'll just
>>>>> have cut it loose. As we get older my wife's mantra has
>>>>> become "Just get rid of it!" :-)>
>>>>
>>>> If you feel like fixing it instead, I'll happily donate an
>>>> LH0063CK to the cause.
>>>>
>>>> You could show your better half this Paul Carlson video so she
>>>> can see how well off she is. ;)
>>>>
>>>>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9Fb6RUMsk
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Phil Hobbs
>>>
>>> Nice lab.
>>>
>>> Musta cost a pretty penny.
>>>
>>
>> Actually not anymore unless you count the real estate costs. Nearly
>> all of those boat anchor instruments can be bought cheaply because
>> most younger engineers do not have the foggiest how to operate
>> them. So they get ditched by large and small companies.
>> Unfortunately sometimes literally. Pleany of stories where someone
>> heard a vvrradda-BAM .. CRUNCH out in the parking lot. Turns out
>> not to have been a fender bender but someone had just thrown an XYZ
>> analyzer into the dumpster, with another stash of them waiting on
>> the fork lift.
>
> and they don't have to be old or outdated, if the bean counters
> decide they are worth the most as destroyed they go into the crusher
>

Bean counters are often not smart with those decisions. Many don't seem 
to understand that donating equipment would net the company a nice big 
tax deduction. Even if they'd just call in the guys from the next tech 
bone yard they'd at least get a small amount per pound of weight. Plus 
lower charges from the waste disposal service.

Even my over 40 year old first oscilloscope still has a job. Not here 
but in a high school I donated it to. I didn't need a tax receipt, just 
wanted to make sure the kids have something that makes them literally 
see waveform changes as they create them.

Really smart managers in high-tech companies maek sure there is a junk 
room where old gear is kept instead of tossed. Over my career that has 
saved the bacon many times. Occasionally I had to invest an hour or two 
of billed time but then the rejuvenated old analog scope diagnosed the 
problem they had been chasing for days.

Old rejuvenation trick when in a hurry: Find all trimpots, then go one 
by one. Place a pointer such as a compass or a long sowing needle onto 
its body to mark the wiper position, turn the wiper peg to peg several 
times, then back to where it was. More hardcore are the boxes from the 
80's and 90's where their design engineers though that tantalum caps 
were a good idea. That's a lot of work and only makes sense if you 
really, really want that piece of equipment. Even worse is when that 
dreaded #@&*!! plastic rod for the delayed trigger goes chingalingaling 
in a Tek 2465 and you really need such a fast analog scope (happened 
several times). That's almost like trying to change the clutch in a 
Citroen DS21.

That Tek 2465 is so good that if I'd started my consulting biz today I'd 
immediately look for 2-3 of them. There is nothing that could ever 
replace these.

-- 
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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