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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>On 2025-11-18 02:25:06 +0000, Tony said:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-11-17 17:51:56 +0000, Tony said:
>>>> Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-11-12, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-11-12 02:04:43 +0000, Crash said:
>>>>>>> 
><snip>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lets put that a little differently.  The first rule of business: sell
>>>>>>> your product for the highest price you can get for it.  By definition, 
>>>>>>> if a product sells to a willing buyer, then the price is excessive only 
>>>>>>> to socialists or communists.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Except the buyers only have two choices: buy the product at an
>>>>>> excessive price or don't buy the product at all. When it's an necessary
>>>>>> product like bread, milk, etc, there is no actual choice (other than
>>>>>> starving).
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is when competition should arrive on the scene and attack the
>>>>> "exessive" prices with the buyers all making it clear that the price is
>>>>> too high.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately the buyers do not act with "force", so the execssive prices
>>>>> are paid.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll agree that capitalism does not scale well.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, some countries struggle with it, however no alternative to capitalism
>>>> has ever worked. All attempts at an alternative failed after a few 
>>>> years with poverty and oppression being the result.
>>> 
>>> There is no other country that has tried any other alternative system
>>> *properly*. The so-called "Communist" countries like USSR, China, etc.
>>> were / are really just the greedy selfish fat cats at the top creaming
>>> off wealth for themselves while every else suffers - it's not actually
>>> true communism and not a lot different to the western countries either.
>>> As the saying goes: "The rich get richer and the poor get poorer."
>> 
>> Well Cuba and Iraly both tried and failed. Karl Marx believed communism
>> (marxism) would work and it failed.
>> Some countries have tried - all failed.
>
>Cuba and "Iraly" ;-) are / were in reality the same as USSR and China - 
>in reality all socialst countries with a "communist" government 
>creaming off the wealth for themselves.
Not to start with and that is exactly my point. They became corrupted by their 
greed, but before that the leaders genuinely wanted a fairer system. That is 
historically correct.
>
>There has never been any country that was *truly* communist. None of 
>those countries western people use the terms for actually even 
>described themselves as being that. The simple fact that there is a 
>ruling class, government, etc. means it is not actually communism.
As above, that happened after the corruption. The original ruling classes 
started out with good intentions. (not true in Russia or China of course, they 
were never after a fair system).
>
>Whether or not true communism would work or simply be highly chaotic is 
>very different question.  :-)
I personally believe it could never work, it is based on the idea of human 
beings all wanting to be equal, and that is not the case - we are a greedy 
bunch.

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                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-18 11:02 +1300
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