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Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week

From Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz>
Newsgroups nz.comp
Subject Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week
Date 2025-11-17 03:32 +0000
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On 2025-11-11, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> On 2025-11-11 07:59:14 +0000, Crash said:
>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 15:47:47 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 2025-11-10 23:45:55 +0000, Lawrence D´Oliveiro said:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 12:34:51 +1300, Your Name wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-11-10 22:27:45 +0000, Lawrence D´Oliveiro said:
>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 10:54:03 +1300, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A.  There are near-continuous sales at many retailers ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are laws in NZ against that kind of bogus year-round “sale”. And
>>>>>> the Commerce Commission does enforce the law.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Obviously not very well since many retailers have a near-continuous
>>>>> sale. Briscoes being the most obvious, but there are others too.
>>>> 
>>>> And yet you complain about it as “greedy retailers”.
>>> 
>>> The two aren't connected. Plus, if they can sell them at the "sale"
>>> price while still making a profit (which they mostly do), then
>>> obviously the "normal" price is greedily excessive to begin with.
>> 
>> Except that the large retailers extract reduced pricing from their 
>> suppliers to support their sale prices.  This is particularly true of 
>> The Warehouse, Harvey Norman, PB Tech et al.  They don't drop their 
>> margins, their suppliers do.
>
> Doesn't really change the point that the original price was greedily 
> excessive - whether that's due to the retailer or the manufacturer, or 
> more likely both.

So it is more than you are pepaid to pay. Don't buy the goods, this is how
it works in theory. Haggle, that is supposed to work.
>
>
>
>> There are 2 angles for this: a supplier who wants to move products 
>> through their retailers, and retailers looking for suppliers wanting to 
>> get their products included with competitive pricing in upcoming 
>> retailer sales.
>
> "Competitive pricing" is largely a myth. All the store brands basically 
> collude on a price. If one store drops the price by a couple of 
> dollars, all the others follow suit. If one brand raises the price by a 
> couple of dollars, all the others follow suit. 

Think about this. You are only going to sell at a lower price than the
competition if you can make on volume. You are in business to make a profit.

So we agree that the street value is the same in all shops.


That's why you don't 
> really find much savings by 'shopping around' (although there are some 
> brands like Noel Leemings that are pretty much always more expensive).
>
> That's the first rule of greedy big business: scam your customer for as 
> much as money you can get away with.
>
>
>

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[NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-10 20:51 +1300
  Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-10 21:03 +0000
    Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-11 10:54 +1300
      Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-10 22:27 +0000
        Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-11 12:34 +1300
          Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-10 23:45 +0000
            Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-11 15:47 +1300
              Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-11 04:47 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-11 18:14 +1300
              Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> - 2025-11-11 20:59 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-12 10:57 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> - 2025-11-12 15:04 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-12 17:48 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> - 2025-11-12 19:55 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-12 20:02 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> - 2025-11-17 03:48 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> - 2025-11-17 03:42 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net> - 2025-11-17 17:51 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-18 11:02 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> - 2025-11-18 02:25 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-18 18:23 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> - 2025-11-18 07:51 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-19 08:23 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> - 2025-11-18 02:26 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-26 03:45 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> - 2025-11-26 07:48 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> - 2025-11-17 18:15 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-12 03:58 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-12 17:41 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> - 2025-11-17 03:32 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> - 2025-11-17 18:19 +1300
          Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> - 2025-11-12 16:20 +1300
  Re: [NEWS] PB Tech Black Friday Sale starts this week Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-16 18:42 +1300

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