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Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from Russia

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On 5/18/26 3:54 PM, Dale wrote:

>> Your VPN is likely being used by people to aggressively crawl or attack
>> Gentoo sites. Pick a provider which doesn't allow abuse.
> 
> I read the same thing about every VPN out there.  Odd how they all seem
> to be bad.  LOL


That is because VPNs are *usually* companies trying to get you to pay
money for "privacy", which is unethical business practices.

VPNs let you "hide" your traffic from your ISP, by essentially having
two ISPs, and your first ISP only sees traffic to the second ISP. The
second ISP (really a VPN) sees all the traffic, and as an ISP that
specializes in controlling traffic from "people who feel they need to
hide", a VPN is a much bigger legal target.

Most VPNs are in it for money, not ethics, and have a far worse track
record for obeying subpoenas.

Most VPNs try to tell you the VPN tech is automatically "hiding your
data from your ISP" because they cater to customers who are easily fooled.

A VPN is useful for moving your zone of interception to a different
legal zone, so it's also good for:

- evading region-restricted sales (e.g. streaming movies only available
  in another country)

- bypassing your totalitarian government censors, if you aren't worried
  about getting caught "suspiciously using a VPN"



A self-hosted VPN is also useful for connecting to your work intranet,
since inside the work's own self-hosted VPN, you are in practice
"inside" the work intranet. Working-from-home might need this.

Funnily enough, no VPN companies advertise this intranet use case.


...


VPN companies are snake oil salesmen pretty much by default. Of course
they allow abuse, it's where they get their customers.

-- 
Eli Schwartz

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Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from Russia Azamat Hackimov <azamat.hackimov@gmail.com> - 2026-05-15 14:00 +0200
  Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen  from Russia Andrey Grozin <grozin@gentoo.org> - 2026-05-17 07:40 +0200
    Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from  Russia Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> - 2026-05-17 08:10 +0200
      Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen  from Russia Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> - 2026-05-18 21:20 +0200
        Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from  Russia Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 22:00 +0200
          Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from  Russia Eli Schwartz <eschwartz@gentoo.org> - 2026-05-19 03:30 +0200
            Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from Russia Alexey Sokolov <alexey+gentoo@asokolov.org> - 2026-05-19 09:40 +0200
              Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from  Russia Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 10:40 +0200
                Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from  Russia Jaco Kroon <jkroon@gentoo.org> - 2026-05-19 12:40 +0200
                Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from  Russia Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> - 2026-05-25 19:00 +0200
                Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen  from Russia Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> - 2026-05-26 06:10 +0200
                Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from  Russia Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 09:50 +0200
                Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen  from Russia Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> - 2026-05-26 12:10 +0200
                Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen  from Russia Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> - 2026-05-26 12:30 +0200
                Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from  Russia Jaco Kroon <jkroon@gentoo.org> - 2026-05-26 14:30 +0200
                Re: [gentoo-dev] strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from  Russia Eli Schwartz <eschwartz@gentoo.org> - 2026-05-26 15:30 +0200
                [gentoo-dev] Re: strange problems with some gentoo sites as seen from Russia Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> - 2026-05-26 08:40 +0200

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