Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages

From	herve <herve@couvelard.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.security
Subject	Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages
Date	2023-10-03 17:30 +0200
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 >> 6.7). So the old gpu module for 6.6 gets removed and a new one is
>      >> built for 6.7 only (since there are only 6.7 headers now).
>
>      Bastian> Ah, here lays the missconception.  No, the 6.6 ones are not
>      Bastian> removed.  Why should they be?  The system knows it can't
>      Bastian> rebuild them.
>
>      Bastian> If the current implementation would remove them, it is a
>      Bastian> problem there, not in the concept.
>
> I still think it would help if you would work more on articulating what
> problem you are trying to solve with the linux-headers versioning
> change.  I have read multiple versions of this proposal, and your
> follow-ups, and I still do not understand what is prompting the
> linux-headers change.
>
> My intuition mirrors others in the conversation that it is problematic
> to support multiple kernel versions without also supporting multiple
> header versions.
>
concerning the linux-headers. may i explain what happend to me.

I reinstalled a debian 11.6 some months ago. and last week i had to make 
virtualbox functioning again. it had to "compile" some kernel modules 
and need some "headers". my kernel (from the install is  5.10.0-23-amd64 
#1 SMP Debian 5.10.179-3 (2023-07-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux) so virtualbox 
need some 5.10.0-23 headers... you can find 5.10.0.20, 5.10.0.22,  
5.10.0.25 in the repos from where the install came from.

I had to surf the web and find a 5.10.0.23 in the web site of an 
university and wget it to dpkg -i it.

I do not know (maybe i could not even understand) the security 
reasons/problems of the headers versioning but it seems from my end-user 
point of view that, the actual situation that lend me to download from a 
website is the worst possible solution.


hervé

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Bug#1040901: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-09-24 15:10 +0200
  Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Andreas Beckmann <anbe@debian.org> - 2023-09-24 23:20 +0200
    Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-09-25 01:10 +0200
      Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Andreas Beckmann <anbe@debian.org> - 2023-09-25 04:40 +0200
        Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-10-01 12:10 +0200
          Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Michel Verdier <mv524@free.fr> - 2023-10-01 12:20 +0200
            Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-10-01 13:50 +0200
              Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Michel Verdier <mv524@free.fr> - 2023-10-01 16:40 +0200
          Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2023-10-03 16:40 +0200
            Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages herve <herve@couvelard.com> - 2023-10-03 17:30 +0200
              Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2023-10-03 19:10 +0200
                Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages herve <herve@couvelard.com> - 2023-10-03 20:40 +0200
            Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-10-03 19:50 +0200
              Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2023-10-03 22:00 +0200
                Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Robert Nelson <robertcnelson@gmail.com> - 2023-10-03 22:10 +0200
                Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-10-05 08:30 +0200
                Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2023-10-05 16:10 +0200
                Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-10-05 17:30 +0200
                Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-10-26 14:00 +0200
              Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Andreas Beckmann <anbe@debian.org> - 2023-10-04 00:00 +0200
                Re: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-10-05 08:10 +0200
  Bug#1040901: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-10-05 21:30 +0200
  Bug#1040901: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-10-07 17:00 +0200
    Bug#1040901: Upcoming changes to Debian Linux kernel packages Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2023-10-27 11:00 +0200

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