Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > linux.debian.maint.python > #7422

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

Path csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod
From Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick
Date Fri, 02 Oct 2015 16:40:01 +0200
Message-ID <qf9F7-690-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
References <qeViO-2oq-17@gated-at.bofh.it> <qf3gl-5mM-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <qf3Jn-69x-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <qf4m6-6T9-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <qf4P8-7Gp-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
X-Original-To debian-python@lists.debian.org
X-Mailbox-Line From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Fri Oct 2 14:36:00 2015
Old-Return-Path <barry@debian.org>
X-Amavis-Spam-Status No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
X-Policyd-Weight using cached result; rate:hard: -5
Organization The Organization of Unorganized Woozalists
X-Mailer Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
MIME-Version 1.0
Content-Type text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding quoted-printable
X-Mailing-List <debian-python@lists.debian.org> archive/latest/12733
List-ID <debian-python.lists.debian.org>
List-URL <https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/>
List-Archive https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20151002103543.238dafe2@limelight.wooz.org
Approved robomod@news.nic.it
Lines 23
Sender robomod@news.nic.it
X-Original-Date Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:35:43 -0400
X-Original-Message-ID <20151002103543.238dafe2@limelight.wooz.org>
X-Original-References <20151001231800.GC3965@p1otr.com> <20151002074118.GD3965@p1otr.com> <87k2r565tt.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> <20151002084710.GA5056@virginsteele.home.trueelena.org> <20151002092804.GU6768@sar0.p1otr.com>
Xref csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:7422

Show key headers only | View raw


On Oct 02, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:

>well, then you will not gain much from maintaining this package within a
>team

It's not just the maintainer that wins by maintaining the package within the
team.  The team also wins because it is now empowered to fix problems when the
need arises.  That's what being in a team is about - I can help when I have
the need, time, interest, and ability, and you can do the same, within the
established and agreed upon rules.  That's the heart of collaboration.

We've explored the downsides, but I think it's important to also recognize the
upsides to being in a team.  Let's not optimize for the worst case scenario.
It's good that this thread reiterated the expected best practices for team
members -- and we should do that periodically to remind old-timers and inform
newcomers.  Who else remembers those old Usenet group monthly FAQs that used
to get posted?

Cheers,
-Barry

Back to linux.debian.maint.python | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar


Thread

[DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 01:20 +0200
  Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 09:50 +0200
    Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 10:20 +0200
      Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 10:40 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 11:00 +0200
          Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 11:20 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-05 12:40 +0200
      Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Elena ``of Valhalla'' <elena.valhalla@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 11:00 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 11:30 +0200
          Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Elena ``of Valhalla'' <elena.valhalla@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 13:40 +0200
          Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 16:40 +0200
    Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 13:30 +0200
  Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2015-10-02 18:20 +0200
    Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2015-10-02 20:30 +0200
    Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-05 12:00 +0200
    Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Arthur de Jong <adejong@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 14:10 +0200
      Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 14:20 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 14:40 +0200
        team vs individual as maintainer (was: radical changes) "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 14:40 +0200
          Re: team vs individual as maintainer (was: radical changes) Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 15:30 +0200
            Re: team vs individual as maintainer Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 15:40 +0200
              Re: team vs individual as maintainer "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 15:50 +0200
              Re: team vs individual as maintainer Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 15:50 +0200
                Re: team vs individual as maintainer Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 16:10 +0200
                Re: team vs individual as maintainer Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 16:20 +0200
              Re: team vs individual as maintainer Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-17 00:00 +0200
                git instead of svn in policy (was Re: team vs individual as  maintainer) IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-17 20:20 +0200
                Re: git instead of svn in DPMT policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-17 20:50 +0200
                Re: git instead of svn in DPMT policy Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au> - 2015-10-18 03:10 +0200
                Re: git instead of svn in DPMT policy Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2015-10-18 13:50 +0200
                Re: git instead of svn in DPMT policy Barry Warsaw <barry@python.org> - 2015-10-19 18:10 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Arthur de Jong <adejong@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 15:40 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2015-10-07 17:10 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 18:30 +0200
  Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2015-10-02 20:40 +0200
    Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2015-10-05 00:00 +0200
      Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au> - 2015-10-05 00:40 +0200
      Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2015-10-05 13:30 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-06 00:10 +0200
  Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2015-10-03 01:40 +0200

csiph-web