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Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

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On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 14:18 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> I assume you all like other ideas, like no team in Maintainer, right?

I kind of liked the differentiation between the two options:

- I'm the primary maintainer and welcome other people working on my 
  packages (me in Maintainer, team in Uploaders)
- I don't feel primarily responsible for the package but the package
  is useful (team in Maintainer, me in Uploaders)

I think I only added packages in the first category but I also think I
mostly contributed to other packages in the second category.

For most of my packages I'm also upstream and I usually manage so I
would appreciate a heads-up before someone else makes major changes to
my packages.

On the other hand, anything that would make it less work to help other
packages would be positive. Avoiding spending time on trying to get
feedback from people would be good.

I think I'm OK with giving up some authority to my packages in exchange
for lowering the total work required for maintaining all packages. In
general it is probably a net positive for Debian to have less
individual ownership of packages because it creates bottlenecks. I
would welcome having more tools and policy around this.

In that sense, switching to Git can probably help (thanks to everyone
working on that). For example mailing package@packages.debian.org with
a pull request would be great.

By the way, still can't promise I'll be able to do much work on other
packages in the near future ;)

-- 
-- arthur - adejong@debian.org - http://people.debian.org/~adejong --

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[DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 01:20 +0200
  Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 09:50 +0200
    Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 10:20 +0200
      Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 10:40 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 11:00 +0200
          Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 11:20 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-05 12:40 +0200
      Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Elena ``of Valhalla'' <elena.valhalla@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 11:00 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 11:30 +0200
          Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Elena ``of Valhalla'' <elena.valhalla@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 13:40 +0200
          Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 16:40 +0200
    Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-02 13:30 +0200
  Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2015-10-02 18:20 +0200
    Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2015-10-02 20:30 +0200
    Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-05 12:00 +0200
    Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Arthur de Jong <adejong@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 14:10 +0200
      Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 14:20 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 14:40 +0200
        team vs individual as maintainer (was: radical changes) "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 14:40 +0200
          Re: team vs individual as maintainer (was: radical changes) Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 15:30 +0200
            Re: team vs individual as maintainer Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 15:40 +0200
              Re: team vs individual as maintainer "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 15:50 +0200
              Re: team vs individual as maintainer Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 15:50 +0200
                Re: team vs individual as maintainer Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 16:10 +0200
                Re: team vs individual as maintainer Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 16:20 +0200
              Re: team vs individual as maintainer Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-17 00:00 +0200
                git instead of svn in policy (was Re: team vs individual as  maintainer) IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2015-10-17 20:20 +0200
                Re: git instead of svn in DPMT policy Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2015-10-17 20:50 +0200
                Re: git instead of svn in DPMT policy Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au> - 2015-10-18 03:10 +0200
                Re: git instead of svn in DPMT policy Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2015-10-18 13:50 +0200
                Re: git instead of svn in DPMT policy Barry Warsaw <barry@python.org> - 2015-10-19 18:10 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Arthur de Jong <adejong@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 15:40 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2015-10-07 17:10 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2015-10-07 18:30 +0200
  Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2015-10-02 20:40 +0200
    Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2015-10-05 00:00 +0200
      Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au> - 2015-10-05 00:40 +0200
      Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2015-10-05 13:30 +0200
        Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-10-06 00:10 +0200
  Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2015-10-03 01:40 +0200

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