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Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594

From Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594
Date 2024-08-11 15:40 +0200
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On 2024-08-03 4 h 02 a.m., Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 03.08.24 07:25, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
>> On 2024-08-02 20:40, Blair Noctis wrote:
>>>> to scale it out in an external source package
>>> which is effectively going against Python upstream, allowing the 
>>> thing to live
>>> on, and people to say "it's still alive in Debian!"
>>>
>>> Also, even python3.11 is still there. Sure someone needing something 
>>> expunged
>>> from 3.13 would be fine staying with 3.12?
>>
>> The idea of having these libraries around for Trixie (and to remove 
>> them after the release) is to ease the 3.13 transition.
>>
>>  From my preliminary analysis, there are more than 600 packages that 
>> use one of the stdlib that'll be removed in 3.13.
> 
> There's also the option to remove packages from testing and/or unstable. 
> I assume, we'll see a lot of packages still using old modules getting 
> removed from testing, once 3.13 becomes the default. It's also an option 
> to remove those completely, if they are not maintained.
> 
>> That is a lot of work and I doubt we'll have a successful transition 
>> without this temporary measure.
> 
> can we agree on a naming for the packaging, e.g. python3-zombie- 
> <module>, so that we make it clear, that people are using obsolete code?
> 
> we do that for python3-zombie-imp already.

I like this a lot and I support this naming scheme.

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Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-08-02 09:20 +0200
  Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2024-08-02 10:30 +0200
    Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Salvo Tomaselli <tiposchi@tiscali.it> - 2024-08-02 11:00 +0200
    Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-08-02 11:20 +0200
      Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 eevelweezel <eevel.weezel@gmail.com> - 2024-08-02 11:40 +0200
      Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2024-08-02 11:50 +0200
      Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Salvo Tomaselli <tiposchi@tiscali.it> - 2024-08-02 14:20 +0200
        Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-08-02 14:40 +0200
          Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Salvo Tomaselli <tiposchi@tiscali.it> - 2024-08-02 16:10 +0200
            Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-08-03 03:10 +0200
              Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Salvo Tomaselli <tiposchi@tiscali.it> - 2024-08-03 15:50 +0200
      Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Emmanuel Arias <eamanu@debian.org> - 2024-08-03 11:30 +0200
    Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Blair Noctis <n@sail.ng> - 2024-08-02 12:30 +0200
      Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2024-08-02 13:00 +0200
        Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Blair Noctis <n@sail.ng> - 2024-08-02 13:50 +0200
          Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2024-08-02 14:10 +0200
            Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Blair Noctis <n@sail.ng> - 2024-08-02 14:30 +0200
          Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Salvo Tomaselli <tiposchi@tiscali.it> - 2024-08-02 14:20 +0200
            Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Blair Noctis <n@sail.ng> - 2024-08-02 14:30 +0200
          Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-08-03 03:50 +0200
            Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Étienne Mollier <emollier@debian.org> - 2024-08-03 10:30 +0200
          Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-08-03 07:30 +0200
            Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2024-08-03 10:10 +0200
              Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-08-11 15:40 +0200
          Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2024-08-03 15:00 +0200

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