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| From | Pascal Rapicault <pascal@rapicorp.com> |
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.maint.java |
| Subject | Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian |
| Date | Tue, 27 Oct 2015 01:30:02 +0100 |
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Hi Luca, Tycho is defining the eclipse-plugin packaging type (https://git.eclipse.org/c/tycho/org.eclipse.tycho.git/tree/tycho-maven-plugin/src/main/resources/META-INF/plexus/components.xml) Pascal On 25/10/2015 5:12 PM, Luca Vercelli wrote: > Dear Pascal, > I have a question. I'm trying to build Tycho, and all pom's refer to > the "packaging eclipse-plugin". What is this? Offline Maven gives error > "Unknown packaging: eclipse-plugin". I suppose its source code is > somewhere else outside Tycho. > > > Il 21/10/2015 03:46, Pascal Rapicault ha scritto: >> Hi, >> >> I'm from the Eclipse community. I've been involved with Eclipse for >> over 10y where I've contributed to the previous build mechanism and to >> the Tycho based one. If you need, I can help shed some light on the >> why of things so you can save time navigating this by yourself. >> That said, I'm not familiar with the way fedora have done things (but >> I know one of the maintainer of the Eclipse build there if we need >> more details), though I assume they probably have to first white list >> a number of bundles to bootstrap tycho, then build the pieces >> originally white listed, and finally rebuild tycho and continue on. >> >> HTH >> >> Pascal >> >> On 15-10-20 01:06 PM, Markus Koschany wrote: >>> Am 20.10.2015 um 12:58 schrieb Luca Vercelli: >>>> I am not an expert with mh_make, however I see a problem here. >>>> Eclipse build depends on Tycho, however Tycho build depends on both >>>> Eclipse and Tycho itself! >>> Indeed that is nasty. But it looks like the Fedora maintainers have >>> solved this issue too. [1] We need to do something similar for Debian to >>> break this circular dependency. >>> >>>> So, two problems: >>>> (1) mh_make fails for both projects. >>>> Markus, can you explain me how were you able to build the base >>>> structure >>>> of Eclipse without mh_make? I should do the same with Tycho. >>> mh_make often chokes on bigger projects with a lot of unpackaged >>> dependencies. I simply ignored as many dependencies as I could and you >>> can find the end result in maven.rules and maven.ignoreRules. Then I >>> used the current packaging for Eclipse as a template. It should be >>> sufficient to start with a minimal debian/rules files. In the first >>> phase we only have to modify the maven.* files and debian/control. For >>> Tycho you can basically do the same. >>> >>> If you can answer the question why mh_make fails with Tycho, you will >>> know what dependency we should package first. Just let me know what >>> dependencies we need for Tycho and I can lend you a hand. >>> >>> >>>> (2) How to build everything? >>>> Fedora packagers were able to build just a tiny part of Tycho (a >>>> "bootstrap"), then a tiny part of Eclipse, then Tycho, and at last >>>> Eclipse. What about Debian? >>> AFAIK they provide different build options. The bootstrap is one of them >>> but otherwise Eclipse and Tycho build-depend on each other. I don't know >>> how to solve this properly yet but I expect we will end up with doing >>> something similar. Remember that the optimization step is always the >>> last part, so feel free to solve this issue with the least amount of >>> effort. >>> >>> Markus >>> >>> >>> [1] http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/tycho.git/tree/ >>>
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Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@gambaru.de> - 2015-10-09 19:30 +0200
Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 09:00 +0200
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