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Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian

From	Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian
Date	2015-10-31 13:30 +0100
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I found out that eclipse depends on sat4j 2.3.4, and we have 2.3.3.
There are some classes more in 2.3.4, so it is required.
I have built 2.3.4 from source, it's quite easy. I just had to write
some pom's myself. how can I share these?
Thank you.


Il 20/10/2015 19:06, Markus Koschany ha scritto:
> Am 20.10.2015 um 12:58 schrieb Luca Vercelli:
>> I am not an expert with mh_make, however I see a problem here.
>> Eclipse build depends on Tycho, however Tycho build depends on both
>> Eclipse and Tycho itself!
> Indeed that is nasty. But it looks like the Fedora maintainers have
> solved this issue too. [1] We need to do something similar for Debian to
> break this circular dependency.
>
>> So, two problems:
>> (1) mh_make fails for both projects.
>> Markus, can you explain me how were you able to build the base structure
>> of Eclipse without mh_make? I should do the same with Tycho.
> mh_make often chokes on bigger projects with a lot of unpackaged
> dependencies. I simply ignored as many dependencies as I could and you
> can find the end result in maven.rules and maven.ignoreRules. Then I
> used the current packaging for Eclipse as a template. It should be
> sufficient to start with a minimal debian/rules files. In the first
> phase we only have to modify the maven.* files and debian/control. For
> Tycho you can basically do the same.
>
> If you can answer the question why mh_make fails with Tycho, you will
> know what dependency we should package first. Just let me know what
> dependencies we need for Tycho and I can lend you a hand.
>
>
>> (2) How to build everything?
>> Fedora packagers were able to build just a tiny part of Tycho (a
>> "bootstrap"), then a tiny part of Eclipse, then Tycho, and at last
>> Eclipse. What about Debian?
> AFAIK they provide different build options. The bootstrap is one of them
> but otherwise Eclipse and Tycho build-depend on each other. I don't know
> how to solve this properly yet but I expect we will end up with doing
> something similar. Remember that the optimization step is always the
> last part, so feel free to solve this issue with the least amount of effort.
>
> Markus
>
>
> [1] http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/tycho.git/tree/
>

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Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 18:50 +0200
  Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@gambaru.de> - 2015-10-09 19:30 +0200
    Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 09:00 +0200
      Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2015-10-10 09:10 +0200
      Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@gambaru.de> - 2015-10-10 11:40 +0200
        Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 09:50 +0200
          Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2015-10-13 09:50 +0200
    Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:10 +0200
      Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@gambaru.de> - 2015-10-17 17:10 +0200
        Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@gambaru.de> - 2015-10-18 17:50 +0200
          Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 13:00 +0200
            Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@gambaru.de> - 2015-10-20 19:10 +0200
              Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Pascal Rapicault <pascal@rapicorp.com> - 2015-10-21 03:50 +0200
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 22:20 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Pascal Rapicault <pascal@rapicorp.com> - 2015-10-27 01:30 +0100
              Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2015-10-23 21:00 +0200
              Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 13:30 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 15:50 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@gambaru.de> - 2015-10-31 16:40 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Pascal Rapicault <pascal@rapicorp.com> - 2015-11-02 08:50 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Michael Tautschnig <mt@debian.org> - 2015-10-31 15:50 +0100
              Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@gambaru.de> - 2015-11-10 20:00 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Mikołaj Izdebski <zurgunt@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 23:30 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2015-11-11 00:40 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Mikołaj Izdebski <zurgunt@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 01:10 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@gambaru.de> - 2015-11-13 19:00 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2015-12-13 22:20 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 13:20 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2016-01-07 13:50 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 15:40 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2016-01-07 16:30 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 08:30 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Christopher Hoskin <christopher.hoskin@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 10:20 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2016-02-16 10:20 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 18:40 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2016-02-16 21:00 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 21:10 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2016-02-17 13:10 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Christopher Hoskin <christopher.hoskin@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 22:10 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 09:30 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 13:40 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2016-02-29 13:40 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 15:00 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Christopher Hoskin <christopher.hoskin@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 00:20 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 09:40 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 10:30 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Christopher Hoskin <christopher.hoskin@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:30 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Luca Vercelli <luca.vercelli.to@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 18:40 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2016-02-29 14:10 +0100
                Re: plans for eclipse luna in debian Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2016-02-29 14:10 +0100

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