Re: Barriers between packages and other people (Was: Bits from DPL)

From	Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org>
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Subject	Re: Barriers between packages and other people (Was: Bits from DPL)
Date	2024-12-05 08:20 +0100
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On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 06:08:00PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> I wonder if we should reconsider the default assumption of package
> ownership. Instead, we could introduce a file, such as
> debian/dont_touch_my_package (or a similarly named file), where
> maintainers can document their reasons for discouraging others from
> uploading the package. This file could include a timestamp, and we could
> establish an agreed-upon timeframe for refreshing the statement to
> ensure its continued validity.
> 
> We could introduce this change starting with Debian Policy version X.
> Maintainers who adopt this policy version by updating the
> Standards-Version in their packages would implicitly agree that, in the
> absence of a debian/dont_touch_my_package file, any Debian Developer is
> permitted to upload the package.
> 
> Do you think this would lower the barrier between a package and other
> people?

This sounds like a basis for an actual solution but I don't think it can
work by itself, unless the timeframe is something like "you cannot touch
this in the next 2 weeks" and it's possible to refresh it without an
upload.

-- 
WBR, wRAR

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    Re: Bits from DPL nick black <dankamongmen@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 23:40 +0100
    Re: Bits from DPL Martin-Éric Racine <martin-eric.racine@iki.fi> - 2024-12-03 09:20 +0100
      Re: Bits from DPL Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-12-03 09:50 +0100
        Barriers between packages and other people (Was: Bits from DPL) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-12-04 18:10 +0100
          Re: Barriers between packages and other people Richard Lewis <richard.lewis.debian@googlemail.com> - 2024-12-04 22:30 +0100
          Re: Barriers between packages and other people (Was: Bits from DPL) Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-12-05 08:20 +0100
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                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-12-21 09:50 +0100
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                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-12-22 03:00 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2024-12-22 07:00 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Gioele Barabucci <gioele@svario.it> - 2024-12-23 20:50 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2024-12-24 12:00 +0100
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                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-12-22 08:40 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-12-22 02:40 +0100
              Re: Barriers between packages and other people Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-12-21 08:30 +0100
              Re: Barriers between packages and other people Santiago Ruano Rincón <santiagorr@riseup.net> - 2024-12-21 10:40 +0100
              Re: Barriers between packages and other people Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2024-12-21 12:30 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-12-21 18:00 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Jeremy Sowden <azazel@debian.org> - 2024-12-21 18:10 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-12-21 18:20 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-12-22 03:00 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2024-12-22 07:30 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-12-22 10:20 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-12-22 18:00 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Daniel Gröber <dxld@darkboxed.org> - 2024-12-23 17:40 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-12-21 19:00 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2024-12-22 03:20 +0100
                Re: Barriers between packages and other people Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2024-12-22 03:30 +0100
            Re: Barriers between packages and other people Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2024-12-21 09:40 +0100
              Re: Barriers between packages and other people Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-12-22 03:00 +0100
              Re: Barriers between packages and other people Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2024-12-22 03:10 +0100

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