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Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux?

From Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk>
Newsgroups comp.unix.programmer, comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux?
Date 2011-05-23 21:57 +0300
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Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes:

> Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes:
> [...]
> > If I were designing a program that needs to sort arrays whose
> > contents are not under my control, I'd avoid using an algorithm
> > whose run-time behavior can vary tremendously depending on the
> > nature of the input -- not just because of the possibility of
> > malicious attacks, but because even random data could conceivably
> > cause the same problem.  Even if the problem is unlikely to occur,
> > it's good to have one less thing to worry about.
> >
> > If this were difficult to do, I'd stop and consider whether it's
> > worth the effort, but it shouldn't be.  Though a naive Quicksort
> > algorithm does suffer from this problem, my guess is that most,
> > perhaps all, library sorting algorithms avoid it, either by tweaking
> > Quicksort or by using a different algorithm.
> 
> On re-reading this, I realize that the sentence
> 
>     If this were difficult to do, I'd stop and consider whether it's
>     worth the effort, but it shouldn't be.
> 
> was unclear.  I meant that it shouldn't be difficult to do, not
> that it shouldn't be worth the effort.
> 
> > A concrete question: Are there any existing C library implementations
> > of qsort() that are vulnerable to this kind of problem?
> 
> I took a look at the glibc implementation of qsort().  It does
> use Quicksort, but with some tweaks.  It picks the pivot using a
> median-of-three decision tree, it falls back to insertion sort for
> small segments, it uses an explicit stack rather than recursion,
> and it always handles the larger partition first.

Odd, in order to reduce actual recursion (and do tail recursion 
instead), and to keep locality of reference tight, I'd handle the 
smaller part first were I to use an actual quicksort. Not that I'd
do that, being more of a fan of heapsort in situations where I want 
an acceptable worst-case big-Oh for reasons such as availability.

> I don't know
> whether this completely avoids the worst-case N**2 behavior or not,
> but it should make it less likely to happen accidentally.

Nope, reduces the constant, that's all. If the median is selected 
from 3 random (i.e. unpredicatable to an attacker) elements, then 
the worst case behaviour can not be forced, and you would average
to the theoretical average. But then you have to secure information
about your (P)RNG state.

Phil
-- 
"At least you know where you are with Microsoft."
"True. I just wish I'd brought a paddle." -- Matthew Vernon

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Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? boltar2003@boltar.world - 2011-05-05 09:37 +0000
  Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? China Blue Veins <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-05 02:51 -0700
    Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? boltar2003@boltar.world - 2011-05-05 09:58 +0000
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      Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2011-05-07 23:22 +0000
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                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "robertwessel2@yahoo.com" <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-18 01:02 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-05-18 01:29 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "robertwessel2@yahoo.com" <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-18 04:03 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Ben Pfaff <blp@cs.stanford.edu> - 2011-05-17 16:47 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-05-17 17:21 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-23 21:57 +0300
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-05-23 21:57 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "robertwessel2@yahoo.com" <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-23 17:45 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mssgmbh.com> - 2011-05-24 11:43 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "robertwessel2@yahoo.com" <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-24 10:58 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Sherm Pendley <sherm.pendley@gmail.com> - 2011-05-11 11:11 -0400
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-05-11 19:48 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-05-09 16:22 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-05-09 21:25 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-05-10 17:28 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-05-09 17:11 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-10 12:20 +1200
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-05-10 03:53 -0400
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-10 20:18 +1200
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-05-10 04:42 -0400
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? boltar2003@boltar.world - 2011-05-10 09:12 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-05-10 03:21 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? boltar2003@boltar.world - 2011-05-10 10:53 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-10 08:12 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-05-10 09:39 -0400
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-05-10 12:51 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-11 08:12 +1200
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-05-10 15:16 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-05-10 19:43 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-05-11 07:41 -0400
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-05-11 19:51 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mssgmbh.com> - 2011-05-11 12:45 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-10 07:50 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mssgmbh.com> - 2011-05-10 11:04 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-05-08 09:27 -0400
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-08 08:04 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-05-08 22:50 -0400
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-09 00:18 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-05-08 19:49 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Måns Rullgård <mans@mansr.com> - 2011-05-08 20:05 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-05-08 13:44 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-09 00:22 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-05-15 17:05 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-05-15 14:07 -0400
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-05-15 22:49 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-05-15 21:08 -0400
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mssgmbh.com> - 2011-05-16 11:10 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C? Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org> - 2011-05-16 08:04 +0000
              Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2011-05-07 19:11 +0300
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-05-08 07:17 +0200
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2011-05-08 10:16 +0300
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-05-09 09:03 +0200
    Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? boltar2003@boltar.world - 2011-05-06 08:59 +0000
      Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-06 03:01 -0700
        Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-05-06 07:13 -0400
          Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-06 09:02 -0700
      Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-05-06 15:41 -0700
        Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-07 02:53 -0700
        Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? boltar2003@boltar.world - 2011-05-07 16:17 +0000
          Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2011-05-07 10:08 -0700
            Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-05-07 20:20 +0100
              Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2011-05-07 14:26 -0700
            Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-05-07 14:31 -0700
              Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2011-05-07 22:49 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-05-07 23:27 -0700
          Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@OrSPaMcle.COM> - 2011-05-07 17:22 +0000
            Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-07 10:24 -0700
              Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@OrSPaMcle.COM> - 2011-05-07 17:32 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-07 11:43 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@OrSPaMcle.COM> - 2011-05-08 10:57 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-08 08:09 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-05-08 19:41 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Xavier Roche <xroche@free.fr.NOSPAM.invalid> - 2011-05-08 17:59 +0200
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Xavier Roche <xroche@free.fr.NOSPAM.invalid> - 2011-05-09 09:01 +0200
              Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-05-07 20:41 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-05-07 12:48 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@OrSPaMcle.COM> - 2011-05-08 11:01 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2011-05-08 13:10 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-05-08 19:51 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2011-05-08 22:21 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2011-06-04 12:54 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-06-04 12:59 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? ImpalerCore <jadill33@gmail.com> - 2011-06-07 06:30 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-06-10 21:56 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-07 13:53 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-05-07 15:16 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Måns Rullgård <mans@mansr.com> - 2011-05-07 23:42 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-05-07 19:37 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-05-08 07:17 +0200
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-05-08 09:24 +0200
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Måns Rullgård <mans@mansr.com> - 2011-05-08 10:36 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-14 13:29 +0300
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-05-08 08:37 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@OrSPaMcle.COM> - 2011-05-08 11:13 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-05-09 15:46 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-05-08 00:28 -0400
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2011-05-07 23:06 -0700
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Dr Nick <3-nospam@temporary-address.org.uk> - 2011-05-08 07:30 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2011-05-08 15:51 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-14 13:33 +0300
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-05-14 11:08 -0400
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2011-05-14 15:53 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-05-10 22:14 +0100
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Casper H.S. Dik <Casper.Dik@OrSPaMcle.COM> - 2011-05-08 11:08 +0000
                Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-05-08 08:15 +0100
    Re: Avoiding recursive stack overflow in C on Unix/Linux? boltar2003@boltar.world - 2011-05-10 08:30 +0000
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