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| Started by | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| First post | 2016-11-12 14:30 -0500 |
| Last post | 2016-11-13 01:35 +0000 |
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SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-12 14:30 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-12 20:18 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-12 15:39 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-12 20:46 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-12 16:07 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-12 22:16 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-12 17:55 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-13 11:47 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-13 13:55 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-13 13:57 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-13 14:00 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-13 19:58 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-13 18:13 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 01:55 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-13 23:27 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 05:25 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 16:26 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-14 07:16 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-14 09:19 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 16:48 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-14 13:09 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 18:44 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-14 19:58 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 03:05 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 08:32 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 16:04 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:05 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:48 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:56 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:50 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 19:00 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 13:35 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 16:29 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 10:31 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-14 20:00 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 03:09 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 04:48 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 16:34 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 00:51 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 20:43 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 17:14 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 14:24 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-11-15 11:32 -0800
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 14:54 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 06:59 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 17:11 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 22:25 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:45 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 11:14 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 19:38 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:43 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:55 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-17 16:05 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 23:13 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-17 23:41 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-18 07:37 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-19 00:28 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-19 05:32 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-19 21:54 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-20 00:47 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-19 00:25 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 10:48 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-18 03:21 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-18 03:23 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:43 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-14 18:35 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 00:18 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-14 19:43 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-14 17:04 -0800
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 02:55 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 02:51 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 08:30 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Pat <pat@nospam.us> - 2016-11-15 10:29 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 16:11 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:05 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 16:07 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:06 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:52 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 19:17 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-16 00:45 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 22:34 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-16 04:12 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 06:16 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-04 15:57 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-04 16:05 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-04 16:09 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-04 16:39 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-04 23:23 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:53 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-05 17:55 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 18:04 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-05 16:06 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-05 23:21 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-05 18:36 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-06 00:36 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-05 20:02 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-06 04:25 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 08:15 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2016-12-06 12:44 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-06 15:24 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-06 18:30 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-07 12:03 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac AL <l452236747@invalid.com> - 2016-12-06 10:21 -0700
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-06 15:17 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-06 18:25 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-06 19:19 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-07 12:00 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-07 02:27 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-05 21:49 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-05 16:04 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 08:10 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-05 14:15 -0800
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 08:10 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 16:04 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 13:40 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 16:33 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:06 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:53 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-17 16:04 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 23:05 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 10:47 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:47 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:55 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 13:38 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-16 19:09 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:55 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-17 16:01 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 22:45 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 10:42 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-13 01:38 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-13 01:37 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac martin <martin@rakupottery.org.uk> - 2016-11-13 15:57 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-13 01:35 +0000
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 17:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e90u37F46dtU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96897 |
On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 2016-11-15 00:34, Rod Speed wrote: > >> But since you are watching a movie on the Mac, it makes sense >> to display the message there over the movie so you don’t have >> to hunt for the phone to see what the message is about. > > Movie plays full screen on display #3 (big TV). I most certaintly don't > want distractions coming from the "notifications" interrupting the movie Then turn off Text Message Forwarding. Duh. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 14:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <582b60ee$0$28946$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #96919 |
On 2016-11-15 12:14, Jolly Roger wrote: > Then turn off Text Message Forwarding. Duh. I never enabled SMS or cellular forwarding. But this still happens with native Apple iMessages where receiving an iMessage will show up on the desktop first (which I don't see since I am watching a movie and not at my desk) instead of on my sleeping phone which is next to me on the couch. With iMessage delivery, I *can* understand delay if the Apple servers have heavy load and it takes time to send multiple copies of the same message to multiple devices. But for SMS, since the phone is the device that receives the SMS from the cell network, the phone does not have to wait for the Apple servers to send him the message sicne it is the first one to get it and then send it to Apple for further dissemination.
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 11:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <o0fnro$b80$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #96927 |
On 11/15/16 PDT 11:24 AM, JF Mezei wrote: > On 2016-11-15 12:14, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> Then turn off Text Message Forwarding. Duh. > > I never enabled SMS or cellular forwarding. But this still happens with > native Apple iMessages where receiving an iMessage will show up on the > desktop first (which I don't see since I am watching a movie and not at > my desk) instead of on my sleeping phone which is next to me on the couch. > > With iMessage delivery, I *can* understand delay if the Apple servers > have heavy load and it takes time to send multiple copies of the same > message to multiple devices. > > > But for SMS, since the phone is the device that receives the SMS from > the cell network, the phone does not have to wait for the Apple servers > to send him the message sicne it is the first one to get it and then > send it to Apple for further dissemination. Then put your desktop to sleep and keep your phone awake.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 14:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <582b680a$0$1653$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #96928 |
On 2016-11-15 14:32, John McWilliams wrote: > Then put your desktop to sleep and keep your phone awake. When you want your computer to play a movie on your big TV, putting it to sleep sort of defeats the purpose. Just because a computer is active/busy does not mean you are in front of it.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-16 06:59 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <e917poF70mvU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96930 |
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote > John McWilliams wrote >> Then put your desktop to sleep and keep your phone awake. > When you want your computer to play a movie on your > big TV, putting it to sleep sort of defeats the purpose. > Just because a computer is active/busy does not mean you are in front of > it. But it does mean that you are using it and so it makes sense to display the newly arrived SMS on that first because you are clearly using it.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 17:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <582b881c$0$40842$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #96931 |
On 2016-11-15 14:59, Rod Speed wrote: > But it does mean that you are using it and so it makes sense to display > the newly arrived SMS on that first because you are clearly using it. It is wring to assume that a desktop's displays are all next to each other and the user is always in front of first display where notifications are displayed. Also wrong to assume everyone has different "spaces" for each display. Here is another scenario: I am encoding a series of movies. Desktop is at 600% and hiuffing and puffing for a few hours. Meanwhile, I am in kitchen preparing a long meal for guests and have my phone with me. Your logic dictates the messages need to go to the computer first ()where they are not seen) and then later to the phone. Meanwhile I may have a guest waiting outside in the cold thinking I am not there because I am not reoplying right away.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 22:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e91gasF93hdU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96938 |
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 2016-11-15 14:59, Rod Speed wrote: > >> But it does mean that you are using it and so it makes sense to display >> the newly arrived SMS on that first because you are clearly using it. > > It is wring to assume that a desktop's displays are all next to each > other and the user is always in front of first display where > notifications are displayed. > > Also wrong to assume everyone has different "spaces" for each display. > > > Here is another scenario: I am encoding a series of movies. Desktop is > at 600% and hiuffing and puffing for a few hours. Meanwhile, I am in > kitchen preparing a long meal for guests and have my phone with me. > > Your logic dictates the messages need to go to the computer first Nope. You clearly haven't even used this feature. As usual you are forming misguided opinions based on pure ignorance. I happen to routinely encode videos unattended for hours at a time on my Mac. After I walk away, the screen goes to sleep while encoding continues. Since Apple knows I am not actively using the Mac, messages first go to my phone (or whatever other device I am using at the time). > Meanwhile I may > have a guest waiting outside in the cold thinking I am not there because > I am not reoplying right away. Nonsense. What you describe above is not how it works. I've never missed a message from Apple. Again, it's obvious you haven't actually used this functionality - but as usual that's not stopping you from spewing bullshit and making yourself look like a fool. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 23:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno2n7if.l7e.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #96938 |
In message <582b881c$0$40842$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > Your logic dictates the messages need to go to the computer first Nope. You are, STILL, making shit up. This is simply not at all how it works. You are wrong. It is obvious you hav eno idea what you are talking about. At all. Again. -- Knowledge equals power... --... Power equals energy... People were stupid, sometimes. They thought the Library was a dangerous place because of all the magical books, which was true enough, but what made it really one of the most dangerous places there could ever be was the simple fact that it was a library. Energy equals matter... --... Matter equals mass. And mass distorts space. It distorts it into polyfractal L-Space. --Guards! Guards!
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-16 11:14 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <e91mnbFah3uU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96938 |
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> But it does mean that you are using it and so it makes sense to display >> the newly arrived SMS on that first because you are clearly using it. > It is wring to assume that a desktop's displays are all next to each other I assumed nothing of the sort. Obviously the SMS should be shown on the screen that is being used, the big screen TV if its being used to watch movies or TV. > and the user is always in front of first > display where notifications are displayed. Not hard to work out which screen the user is in front of. Even you should be able to work that out if someone was actually stupid enough to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane. > Also wrong to assume everyone has different "spaces" for each display. Not assuming anything of the kind. > Here is another scenario: I am encoding a series of movies. Desktop is > at 600% and hiuffing and puffing for a few hours. Meanwhile, I am in > kitchen preparing a long meal for guests and have my phone with me. Again, it isnt hard to work out if that is the case. > Your logic dictates the messages need to go to the computer > first ()where they are not seen) and then later to the phone. Not when the desktop is clearly doing some transcoding etc like that. > Meanwhile I may have a guest waiting outside in the cold > thinking I am not there because I am not reoplying right away. No reason why the SMS can't be shown in seconds on the phone if the system is too stupid to work out that the user isnt at the desktop. And it makes no sense to not do the obvious thing, show the incoming SMS on what appears to be what the user is using first, for the unusual scenarios you are desperately looking for.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 19:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e916ibF55p5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96927 |
On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 2016-11-15 12:14, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>> On 2016-11-15 00:34, Rod Speed wrote: >>> >>>> But since you are watching a movie on the Mac, it makes sense to >>>> display the message there over the movie so you don’t have to hunt >>>> for the phone to see what the message is about. >>> >>> Movie plays full screen on display #3 (big TV). I most certaintly >>> don't want distractions coming from the "notifications" interrupting >>> the movie >> >> Then turn off Text Message Forwarding. Duh. > > But for SMS, since the phone is the device that receives the SMS from > the cell network, the phone does not have to wait for the Apple > servers to send him the message The SMS message is *forwarded* to the other devices by the phone, which is what should happen when Text Message Forwarding is enabled. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 23:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno2n7es.l7e.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #96919 |
In message <e90u37F46dtU3@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> On 2016-11-15 00:34, Rod Speed wrote: >> >>> But since you are watching a movie on the Mac, it makes sense >>> to display the message there over the movie so you don’t have >>> to hunt for the phone to see what the message is about. >> >> Movie plays full screen on display #3 (big TV). I most certaintly don't >> want distractions coming from the "notifications" interrupting the movie > Then turn off Text Message Forwarding. Duh. It doesn't happen anyway. The Mac doesn't pop up notifications in the middle of movie playpack. -- Hey, baby, I've got just the cure for that penis envy back at my apartment...
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 23:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e91liqF9r1nU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96950 |
On 2016-11-15, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <e90u37F46dtU3@mid.individual.net> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>> On 2016-11-15 00:34, Rod Speed wrote: >>> >>>> But since you are watching a movie on the Mac, it makes sense >>>> to display the message there over the movie so you don’t have >>>> to hunt for the phone to see what the message is about. >>> >>> Movie plays full screen on display #3 (big TV). I most certaintly don't >>> want distractions coming from the "notifications" interrupting the movie > >> Then turn off Text Message Forwarding. Duh. > > It doesn't happen anyway. The Mac doesn't pop up notifications in the > middle of movie playpack. Good point. I hadn't thought of that. JF Mezei is (once again) talking completely out of his ass. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-17 16:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <582e1ba3$0$10179$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #96958 |
On 2016-11-15 18:55, Jolly Roger wrote: > Good point. I hadn't thought of that. JF Mezei is (once again) talking > completely out of his ass. Excuse me ? I said that when the mac is seen as "active" by Apple but isn't active because it is playing a movie and I am nowhere near my Mac, that I don't see notifications. It is Lewis who does not believe that I can play moving on the Mac, displayed on my big TV and with me on couch.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-17 23:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e96rtjFh595U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #97007 |
On 2016-11-17, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 2016-11-15 18:55, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> Good point. I hadn't thought of that. JF Mezei is (once again) >> talking completely out of his ass. > > Excuse me There is no excuse for your behavior. You're clueless, refuse to read technical documentation, and constantly spew FUD and misinformation in these forums. > I said that when the mac is seen as "active" by Apple but isn't active > because it is playing a movie A Mac that is playing a movie is active. > and I am nowhere near my Mac, that I don't see notifications. You conveniently snipped where Lewis told you macOS doesn't display notifications when movies are playing full screen. > It is Lewis who does not believe that I can play moving on the Mac, > displayed on my big TV and with me on couch. Running a physical cable from one room to another to connect a television to a Mac just to play movies on the television has got to be one of the silliest ways I can think of to play movies on a television - that's what wireless networks and Apple TVs are for. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-17 23:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <582e865f$0$34525$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #97011 |
On 2016-11-17 18:13, Jolly Roger wrote: > A Mac that is playing a movie is active. > You conveniently snipped where Lewis told you macOS doesn't display > notifications when movies are playing full screen. Yet you have been arguing that the mac is active and should be the one handling the notification, not the phone that is asleep, but in customer's hands on couch. Secondly, when the movie is full screen on screen 3 (TV) with VLC (not with Mac apps who zap the whole deskop unless you have separate spaces activated), the first 2 screens behave normnally and noticifactions arrive on screen 1 as usual. > Running a physical cable from one room to another to connect a > television to a Mac just to play movies on the television Excuse me ? Who says my Mac is in different room from TV set. ? Mac has cable to stereo, stereo has cables to TV and speakers.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-18 07:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e97pebFo3amU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #97026 |
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 2016-11-17 18:13, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> A Mac that is playing a movie is active. > >> You conveniently snipped where Lewis told you macOS doesn't display >> notifications when movies are playing full screen. > > Yet you have been arguing that the mac is active and should be the one > handling the notification, not the phone You're an idiot. *Both* get the notification! It arrives first on the active device, then to other devices including the phone that's asleep. If you had ever bothered to actually *use* the feature you'd know that, dummy. > Secondly, when the movie is full screen on screen 3 (TV) with VLC (not > with Mac apps who zap the whole deskop unless you have separate spaces > activated), the first 2 screens behave normnally and noticifactions > arrive on screen 1 as usual. And there's nothing wrong with that. >> Running a physical cable from one room to another to connect a >> television to a Mac just to play movies on the television > > Excuse me ? Who says my Mac is in different room from TV set. ? Even sillier. You are in the same room as the Mac, watching a movie in the Mac, but somehow it's a "problem" if you see a message notification on it... -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2016-11-19 00:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno2v76r.2r69.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #97029 |
In message <e97pebFo3amU1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> On 2016-11-17 18:13, Jolly Roger wrote: >> >>> A Mac that is playing a movie is active. >> >>> You conveniently snipped where Lewis told you macOS doesn't display >>> notifications when movies are playing full screen. >> >> Yet you have been arguing that the mac is active and should be the one >> handling the notification, not the phone > You're an idiot. *Both* get the notification! It arrives first on the > active device, then to other devices including the phone that's asleep. If > you had ever bothered to actually *use* the feature you'd know that, dummy. The phone in-hand will get the notification first since it will be seen as the active device. The Mac will not be seen as the active device when playing a movie unless, maybe, you've not used any other device since starting the movie. -- The quality of our thoughts and ideas can only be as good as the quality of our language.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-19 05:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e9a6fvFbg67U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #97083 |
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <e97pebFo3amU1@mid.individual.net> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>> On 2016-11-17 18:13, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> >>>> A Mac that is playing a movie is active. >>> >>>> You conveniently snipped where Lewis told you macOS doesn't display >>>> notifications when movies are playing full screen. >>> >>> Yet you have been arguing that the mac is active and should be the one >>> handling the notification, not the phone > >> You're an idiot. *Both* get the notification! It arrives first on the >> active device, then to other devices including the phone that's asleep. If >> you had ever bothered to actually *use* the feature you'd know that, dummy. > > The phone in-hand will get the notification first since it will be seen > as the active device. Sure, but I thought earlier he said the phone was asleep. If so the Mac playing a movie would display it first. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2016-11-19 21:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno31ihr.2u8r.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #97088 |
In message <e9a6fvFbg67U1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> In message <e97pebFo3amU1@mid.individual.net> >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>>> On 2016-11-17 18:13, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> >>>>> A Mac that is playing a movie is active. >>>> >>>>> You conveniently snipped where Lewis told you macOS doesn't display >>>>> notifications when movies are playing full screen. >>>> >>>> Yet you have been arguing that the mac is active and should be the one >>>> handling the notification, not the phone >> >>> You're an idiot. *Both* get the notification! It arrives first on the >>> active device, then to other devices including the phone that's asleep. If >>> you had ever bothered to actually *use* the feature you'd know that, dummy. >> >> The phone in-hand will get the notification first since it will be seen >> as the active device. > Sure, but I thought earlier he said the phone was asleep. If so the Mac > playing a movie would display it first. Even if it's asleep if it's in-hand it will still be the active device, or at least so it seems in my use. For the computer to be "active" you have to be uisng the keyboard or mouse. But, since moving to Apple TV, it's hard for me to test if there's been any changes. -- On nights such as this, evil deeds are done. And good deeds, of course. But mostly evil deeds. --Wyrd Sisters
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-20 00:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e9ca5lFr9g8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #97111 |
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <e9a6fvFbg67U1@mid.individual.net> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >>> In message <e97pebFo3amU1@mid.individual.net> >>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>>>> On 2016-11-17 18:13, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A Mac that is playing a movie is active. >>>>> >>>>>> You conveniently snipped where Lewis told you macOS doesn't display >>>>>> notifications when movies are playing full screen. >>>>> >>>>> Yet you have been arguing that the mac is active and should be the one >>>>> handling the notification, not the phone >>> >>>> You're an idiot. *Both* get the notification! It arrives first on the >>>> active device, then to other devices including the phone that's asleep. If >>>> you had ever bothered to actually *use* the feature you'd know that, dummy. >>> >>> The phone in-hand will get the notification first since it will be seen >>> as the active device. > >> Sure, but I thought earlier he said the phone was asleep. If so the Mac >> playing a movie would display it first. > > Even if it's asleep if it's in-hand it will still be the active device, > or at least so it seems in my use. Hmm... maybe. > For the computer to be "active" you have to be uisng the keyboard or > mouse. > > But, since moving to Apple TV, it's hard for me to test if there's been > any changes. It gets it right for me all the time, and that's all I care about. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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