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| Started by | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| First post | 2016-11-12 14:30 -0500 |
| Last post | 2016-11-13 01:35 +0000 |
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SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-12 14:30 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-12 20:18 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-12 15:39 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-12 20:46 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-12 16:07 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-12 22:16 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-12 17:55 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-13 11:47 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-13 13:55 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-13 13:57 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-13 14:00 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-13 19:58 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-13 18:13 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 01:55 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-13 23:27 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 05:25 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 16:26 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-14 07:16 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-14 09:19 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 16:48 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-14 13:09 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 18:44 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-14 19:58 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 03:05 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 08:32 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 16:04 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:05 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:48 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:56 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:50 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 19:00 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 13:35 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 16:29 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 10:31 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-14 20:00 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 03:09 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 04:48 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 16:34 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 00:51 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 20:43 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 17:14 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 14:24 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-11-15 11:32 -0800
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 14:54 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 06:59 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 17:11 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 22:25 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:45 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 11:14 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 19:38 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:43 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:55 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-17 16:05 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 23:13 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-17 23:41 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-18 07:37 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-19 00:28 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-19 05:32 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-19 21:54 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-20 00:47 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-19 00:25 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 10:48 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-18 03:21 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-18 03:23 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:43 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-14 18:35 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 00:18 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-14 19:43 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-14 17:04 -0800
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 02:55 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 02:51 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 08:30 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Pat <pat@nospam.us> - 2016-11-15 10:29 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 16:11 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:05 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 16:07 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:06 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:52 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 19:17 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-16 00:45 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 22:34 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-16 04:12 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 06:16 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-04 15:57 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-04 16:05 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-04 16:09 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-04 16:39 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-04 23:23 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:53 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-05 17:55 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 18:04 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-05 16:06 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-05 23:21 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-05 18:36 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-06 00:36 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-05 20:02 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-06 04:25 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 08:15 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2016-12-06 12:44 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-06 15:24 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-06 18:30 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-07 12:03 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac AL <l452236747@invalid.com> - 2016-12-06 10:21 -0700
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-06 15:17 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-06 18:25 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-06 19:19 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-07 12:00 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-07 02:27 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-05 21:49 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-05 16:04 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 08:10 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-05 14:15 -0800
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 08:10 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 16:04 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 13:40 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 16:33 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:06 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:53 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-17 16:04 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 23:05 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 10:47 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:47 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:55 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 13:38 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-16 19:09 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:55 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-17 16:01 -0500
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 22:45 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 10:42 +1100
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-13 01:38 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-13 01:37 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac martin <martin@rakupottery.org.uk> - 2016-11-13 15:57 +0000
Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-13 01:35 +0000
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-14 13:09 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <5829fdda$0$29553$c3e8da3$c8b7d2e6@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #96854 |
On 2016-11-14 11:48, Jolly Roger wrote: > You are the one claiming Apple adds a delay. What I see is that Apple > figures out where you are on the fly and makes sure that's where you get > the message as quickly as possible, while other devices get the message on > a more lazy schedule With an SMS, the PHONE gets the message from the cell network. It then relays it to Apple's servers who then disseminate message to other devices. The fact that the phone hinders/delays the display of a message it gets first is the problem. This is a delay induced by the phone, not by Apple's servers. And what exactly is the goal of delaying the message? It is more ligical to have all your devices ring at same time so you know they are all dealing with same message rather than a staggered approach where a phone "ping" a minute later leads you to believe it is a new message and you then have to check the phone to see if it is a message you already read on the computer of it is a new message.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-14 18:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e8uevrFgkukU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96860 |
On 2016-11-14, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 2016-11-14 11:48, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> You are the one claiming Apple adds a delay. What I see is that Apple >> figures out where you are on the fly and makes sure that's where you >> get the message as quickly as possible, while other devices get the >> message on a more lazy schedule > > With an SMS, the PHONE gets the message from the cell network. It > then relays it to Apple's servers who then disseminate message to > other devices. That's not a "problem". > The fact that the phone hinders/delays the display of a message it > gets first is the problem. Nonsense. There is no "problem" except the one in your mind. You are actually complaining that a device you aren't even using doesn't display a message first - while conveniently ignoring the fact that the message *is* delivered to the device you *are* using as quickly as possible. If I'm in the living room on my iPad and my phone is in the bedroom, I truly do not give a shit whether the message appears on the phone in another room first. What most people want is for the message to get to them where they actually *are* as quickly as possible, which is precisely what happens. You are desperately trying to manufacture a "problem" where none exists (as usual). In fact I'd wager you don't even receive SMS messages on devices other than your phone, which would mean that (yet again) you are forming opinions based on pure ignorance. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-14 19:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <582a5db4$0$7281$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #96863 |
On 2016-11-14 13:44, Jolly Roger wrote: > Nonsense. There is no "problem" except the one in your mind. You are > actually complaining that a device you aren't even using doesn't display > a message first - while conveniently ignoring the fact that the message > *is* delivered to the device you *are* using as quickly as possible. I am complaining that my phone on my desk beeps a minute later to indicate receipt of a NEW message, yet, it is a message that I have already read. It would be far better if all the devices beeped within a second of each other so I know they are all announcing the same message and can choose which device I wish to read it on. And in the case of an SMS, since the phone gets the message from the cell carrier first, it should display it right away and then pass it on to Apple to decide where next to send message.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 03:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e8vcbqFn5gdU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96877 |
On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > > I am complaining that my phone on my desk beeps a minute later to > indicate receipt of a NEW message, yet, it is a message that I have > already read. I dislike that as well, but that's not what Alan is complaining about. Alan wishes SMS messages would display on the phone first even when you are using another device. You wish that devices other than the one you are actually using wouldn't display a notification at all. While that might be nice, it might also cause you to miss a notification. I think Apple is erring on the side of caution to ensure you actually will see the message. > It would be far better if all the devices beeped within a second of > each other so I know they are all announcing the same message and can > choose which device I wish to read it on. I disagree. The best scenario is that the message appears on the device you are actually *using* first. I can see how one might not want to see an audio/visual notification on other devices, but again, I think Apple does this to cover all bases on the off chance you aren't actually at the device they think you are currently using. > And in the case of an SMS, since the phone gets the message from the > cell carrier first, it should display it right away and then pass it > on to Apple to decide where next to send message. I disagree. I see no need for my phone to display any message first when I'm not even in the same room. How would I benefit from that? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 08:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ka2dneikXLj7k7bFnZ2dnUU7-YWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #96887 |
On 2016-11-14 22:05, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> >> I am complaining that my phone on my desk beeps a minute later to >> indicate receipt of a NEW message, yet, it is a message that I have >> already read. > > I dislike that as well, but that's not what Alan is complaining about. > > Alan wishes SMS messages would display on the phone first even when you > are using another device. Since it's an SMS destined to that phone number it should display there first without any delay. Period. That it would appear on any and all other devices swiftly and w/o delay is desired as well. -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 16:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e90pvmF3h0tU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96906 |
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2016-11-14 22:05, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>> >>> I am complaining that my phone on my desk beeps a minute later to >>> indicate receipt of a NEW message, yet, it is a message that I have >>> already read. >> >> I dislike that as well, but that's not what Alan is complaining about. >> >> Alan wishes SMS messages would display on the phone first even when you >> are using another device. > > Since it's an SMS destined to that phone number it should display there > first without any delay. Text messages *do* display on the phone first when you don't have text message forwarding enabled. When you do have text message forwarding enabled, text messages show up on the device you are actually *using* first. That's the way it works. Most of us are okay with that. Deal with it. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 18:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <W6OdnYwVqLlICbbFnZ2dnUU7-I1QAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #96912 |
On 2016-11-15 11:04, Jolly Roger wrote: > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2016-11-14 22:05, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am complaining that my phone on my desk beeps a minute later to >>>> indicate receipt of a NEW message, yet, it is a message that I have >>>> already read. >>> >>> I dislike that as well, but that's not what Alan is complaining about. >>> >>> Alan wishes SMS messages would display on the phone first even when you >>> are using another device. >> >> Since it's an SMS destined to that phone number it should display there >> first without any delay. > > Text messages *do* display on the phone first when you don't have text > message forwarding enabled. > > When you do have text message forwarding enabled, text messages show up on > the device you are actually *using* first. > > That's the way it works. Most of us are okay with that. Deal with it. I don't have much choice, do I? -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 23:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno2n7ns.l7e.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #96941 |
In message <W6OdnYwVqLlICbbFnZ2dnUU7-I1QAAAA@giganews.com> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2016-11-15 11:04, Jolly Roger wrote: >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2016-11-14 22:05, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am complaining that my phone on my desk beeps a minute later to >>>>> indicate receipt of a NEW message, yet, it is a message that I have >>>>> already read. >>>> >>>> I dislike that as well, but that's not what Alan is complaining about. >>>> >>>> Alan wishes SMS messages would display on the phone first even when you >>>> are using another device. >>> >>> Since it's an SMS destined to that phone number it should display there >>> first without any delay. >> >> Text messages *do* display on the phone first when you don't have text >> message forwarding enabled. >> >> When you do have text message forwarding enabled, text messages show up on >> the device you are actually *using* first. >> >> That's the way it works. Most of us are okay with that. Deal with it. > I don't have much choice, do I? If you don't like the feature, turn it off. -- "I don't care how much melanin you have in your skin nor who you sleep with, you can't have my cheese."
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 18:56 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <teydnZorUdZZPbbFnZ2dnUU7-fOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #96953 |
On 2016-11-15 18:48, Lewis wrote: > In message <W6OdnYwVqLlICbbFnZ2dnUU7-I1QAAAA@giganews.com> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2016-11-15 11:04, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> On 2016-11-14 22:05, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>> On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am complaining that my phone on my desk beeps a minute later to >>>>>> indicate receipt of a NEW message, yet, it is a message that I have >>>>>> already read. >>>>> >>>>> I dislike that as well, but that's not what Alan is complaining about. >>>>> >>>>> Alan wishes SMS messages would display on the phone first even when you >>>>> are using another device. >>>> >>>> Since it's an SMS destined to that phone number it should display there >>>> first without any delay. >>> >>> Text messages *do* display on the phone first when you don't have text >>> message forwarding enabled. >>> >>> When you do have text message forwarding enabled, text messages show up on >>> the device you are actually *using* first. >>> >>> That's the way it works. Most of us are okay with that. Deal with it. > >> I don't have much choice, do I? > > If you don't like the feature, turn it off. "Cut off your nose to spite your face" -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 23:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e91lacF9r1nU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96941 |
On 2016-11-15, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2016-11-15 11:04, Jolly Roger wrote: >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2016-11-14 22:05, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am complaining that my phone on my desk beeps a minute later to >>>>> indicate receipt of a NEW message, yet, it is a message that I have >>>>> already read. >>>> >>>> I dislike that as well, but that's not what Alan is complaining about. >>>> >>>> Alan wishes SMS messages would display on the phone first even when you >>>> are using another device. >>> >>> Since it's an SMS destined to that phone number it should display there >>> first without any delay. >> >> Text messages *do* display on the phone first when you don't have text >> message forwarding enabled. >> >> When you do have text message forwarding enabled, text messages show up on >> the device you are actually *using* first. >> >> That's the way it works. Most of us are okay with that. Deal with it. > > I don't have much choice, do I? You do have a choice: * disable Text Message Forwarding to ensure SMS messages always appear on your phone first * enable Text message Forwarding to ensure SMS messages always appear on the device you happen to be using first -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 19:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <c7udnQziutQSPLbFnZ2dnUU7-f_NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #96954 |
On 2016-11-15 18:50, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2016-11-15, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2016-11-15 11:04, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> On 2016-11-14 22:05, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>> On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am complaining that my phone on my desk beeps a minute later to >>>>>> indicate receipt of a NEW message, yet, it is a message that I have >>>>>> already read. >>>>> >>>>> I dislike that as well, but that's not what Alan is complaining about. >>>>> >>>>> Alan wishes SMS messages would display on the phone first even when you >>>>> are using another device. >>>> >>>> Since it's an SMS destined to that phone number it should display there >>>> first without any delay. >>> >>> Text messages *do* display on the phone first when you don't have text >>> message forwarding enabled. >>> >>> When you do have text message forwarding enabled, text messages show up on >>> the device you are actually *using* first. >>> >>> That's the way it works. Most of us are okay with that. Deal with it. >> >> I don't have much choice, do I? > > You do have a choice: > > * disable Text Message Forwarding to ensure SMS messages always appear > on your phone first > > * enable Text message Forwarding to ensure SMS messages always appear on > the device you happen to be using first Or convince Apple to program it to output SMS immediately on the SMS receiver as intended by the SMS feature in cell phones. I bet it will shoot to the top of the priority queue... <g> -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2016-11-16 13:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno2oo6n.1d15.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #96963 |
In message <c7udnQziutQSPLbFnZ2dnUU7-f_NnZ2d@giganews.com> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2016-11-15 18:50, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2016-11-15, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2016-11-15 11:04, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> On 2016-11-14 22:05, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>> On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am complaining that my phone on my desk beeps a minute later to >>>>>>> indicate receipt of a NEW message, yet, it is a message that I have >>>>>>> already read. >>>>>> >>>>>> I dislike that as well, but that's not what Alan is complaining about. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan wishes SMS messages would display on the phone first even when you >>>>>> are using another device. >>>>> >>>>> Since it's an SMS destined to that phone number it should display there >>>>> first without any delay. >>>> >>>> Text messages *do* display on the phone first when you don't have text >>>> message forwarding enabled. >>>> >>>> When you do have text message forwarding enabled, text messages show up on >>>> the device you are actually *using* first. >>>> >>>> That's the way it works. Most of us are okay with that. Deal with it. >>> >>> I don't have much choice, do I? >> >> You do have a choice: >> >> * disable Text Message Forwarding to ensure SMS messages always appear >> on your phone first >> >> * enable Text message Forwarding to ensure SMS messages always appear on >> the device you happen to be using first > Or convince Apple to program it to output SMS immediately on the SMS that is not going to happen. They did that, it sucked. This is better. -- Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 16:29 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <e8vkq3FpbmjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96877 |
"JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote in message news:582a5db4$0$7281$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com... > On 2016-11-14 13:44, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> Nonsense. There is no "problem" except the one in your mind. You are >> actually complaining that a device you aren't even using doesn't display >> a message first - while conveniently ignoring the fact that the message >> *is* delivered to the device you *are* using as quickly as possible. > > > I am complaining that my phone on my desk beeps a minute later to > indicate receipt of a NEW message, yet, it is a message that I have > already read. It would be far better if all the devices beeped within a > second of each other so I know they are all announcing the same message > and can choose which device I wish to read it on. > And in the case of an SMS, since the phone gets the message > from the cell carrier first, it should display it right away That's fucked because when the phone is in earshot, you will be distracted by that when the message will show up on the other device you are actually using in moments. > and then pass it on to Apple to decide where next to send message. Stupid approach.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 10:31 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <e8uvr9Fl33sU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96860 |
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote > Jolly Roger wrote >> You are the one claiming Apple adds a delay. What I see is that >> Apple figures out where you are on the fly and makes sure that's >> where you get the message as quickly as possible, while other >> devices get the message on a more lazy schedule > With an SMS, the PHONE gets the message from the cell network. It then > relays it to Apple's servers who then disseminate message to other > devices. > The fact that the phone hinders/delays the > display of a message it gets first is the problem. Nope, no problem at all because the phone doesn’t signal that its got a new SMS before the device that you are actually using tells you about the newly arrived SMS. > This is a delay induced by the phone, not by Apple's servers. Irrelevant to whether its best to tell you about the newly arrived SMS on the device you are actually using. > And what exactly is the goal of delaying the message? You get notified about the new SMS on the device you are using. > It is more ligical to have all your devices ring at same time > so you know they are all dealing with same message Not feasible. > rather than a staggered approach where a phone "ping" > a minute later leads you to believe it is a new message You don’t know that it is a minute later. > and you then have to check the phone to see if it is a message > you already read on the computer of it is a new message. Or you actually have a clue and realise that incoming SMSs do get reported on the device you are actually using so it will be the one you just got notified about on the device you are actually using.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-14 20:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <582a5e39$0$7281$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #96869 |
On 2016-11-14 18:31, Rod Speed wrote: > You get notified about the new SMS on the device you are using. If My Mac is playing a movie, and I am on my couch with my phone, then Apple thinks my phone is asleep and my Mac is the device I am using. It is not the case. The messages should all arrive on each device at same time.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 03:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e8vcigFn5gdU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96878 |
On 2016-11-15, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 2016-11-14 18:31, Rod Speed wrote: > >> You get notified about the new SMS on the device you are using. > > If My Mac is playing a movie, and I am on my couch with my phone, then > Apple thinks my phone is asleep and my Mac is the device I am using. It > is not the case. That's not how it works. If your Mac is playing a movie, it's in use. If your phone is asleep, it's not in use. In this scenario what happens is you get the message on the Mac first, which is precisely what most users want. I suspect you've never actually used this functionality. > The messages should all arrive on each device at same time. Nope, I'd much rather see the message where I actually am first. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 04:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno2l4uk.1cb7.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #96878 |
In message <582a5e39$0$7281$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 2016-11-14 18:31, Rod Speed wrote: >> You get notified about the new SMS on the device you are using. > If My Mac is playing a movie, and I am on my couch with my phone, then > Apple thinks my phone is asleep and my Mac is the device I am using. It > is not the case. You are, once again, making up shit. -- I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise, we climbed aboard their starship, we headed for the skies.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 16:34 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <e8vl2eFpdhuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96878 |
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> You get notified about the new SMS on the device you are using. > If My Mac is playing a movie, and I am on my couch with > my phone, then Apple thinks my phone is asleep and my > Mac is the device I am using. It is not the case. But since you are watching a movie on the Mac, it makes sense to display the message there over the movie so you don’t have to hunt for the phone to see what the message is about. And if you don’t noticed it on the Mac because you are too engrossed in the NZer fucking a sheep very enthusiastically indeed, because that is the sort of movies you watch, the message will show up on the phone a little later and you can check the message on your phone once you have stopped creaming your jeans at the sheep shagger. > The messages should all arrive on each device at same time. Not even possible.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 00:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <582aa246$0$7339$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #96896 |
On 2016-11-15 00:34, Rod Speed wrote: > But since you are watching a movie on the Mac, it makes sense > to display the message there over the movie so you don’t have > to hunt for the phone to see what the message is about. Movie plays full screen on display #3 (big TV). I most certaintly don't want distractions coming from the "notifications" interrupting the movie and those only go to screen 1 anyways.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 20:43 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <e903muFsm93U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96897 |
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> But since you are watching a movie on the Mac, it makes sense >> to display the message there over the movie so you don’t have >> to hunt for the phone to see what the message is about. > Movie plays full screen on display #3 (big TV). I most certaintly don't > want distractions coming from the "notifications" interrupting the movie Yeah, we know you are obsessed with the sheep shagging... > and those only go to screen 1 anyways. Still better than the phone that can be anywhere.
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