Re: ? 1Password

From	Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: ? 1Password
Date	2016-10-22 05:10 +0000
Organization	Miskatonic U
Message-ID	<slrno0lt6l.1dca.g.kreme@snow.local> (permalink)
References	<211020161230400988%bill@invalid.invalid> <e6ve8kFhn7lU3@mid.individual.net>

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In message <e6ve8kFhn7lU3@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2016-10-21, William Hanna <bill@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> are there any dangers to using 1Password?
>>
>> i've been considering getting it, but things aren't that bad right now
>> so i thought i'd get some other perspectives on it

> Personally I don't need software and services like 1Password and
> LastPass because Apple's iCloud Keychain stores credentials securely and
> syncs them to all of my devices without any additional software:

It's a pain in the ass to find out what a password is that is stored in
your iCloud Keychain.

For example, I install the Dropbox app on my phone. How do I login?

I go to a Mac. I open up the keychain access app. I fidn the dropbox
password. I then type it in to the app on the phone manually. Or I text
it to myself. Or I copy it to the clipboard and hope the clipboard sync
works if I'm on iOS 10 and macOS Sierra.

It's only very slightly less convenient when I install the app on my
Mac.

Also, 1Password stores more than just web passwords. I have product
keys, secure notes, credit cards WITH CVVs, HTTP Auth passwords, ftp
passwords (in theory), ssh keys and passwords, copies of my Driver's
License and Passports for the family, and bank account information.

But the real shortcoming in iCloud keychain is that it does not store
"security questions" (the Internet's stupidest idea ever for security,
but still). Since I treat these fields as additional random passwords
instead of using trivially guessable 'real' answers, iCloud keychain is
a convenient addon to 1Password.

for example, one security question I had for my iCloud account before
two-factor authentication was "City parents: 871eqwhv1xMpk" (What city did
your parents meet in?)

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? 1Password William Hanna <bill@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-21 12:30 -0700
  Re: ? 1Password Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-21 21:05 +0000
    Re: ? 1Password Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-22 05:10 +0000
      Re: ? 1Password Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-22 16:06 +0000
        Re: ? 1Password Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-22 19:48 +0000
          Re: ? 1Password Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-22 20:04 +0000
  Re: ? 1Password gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-21 15:12 -0700
  Re: ? 1Password glawrie <gavin.lawrie@2gc.eu> - 2016-10-22 15:02 +0100
    Re: ? 1Password Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-10-22 15:50 +0000
      Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 13:53 -0400
        Re: ? 1Password Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-22 17:58 +0000
          Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 14:18 -0400
            Re: ? 1Password Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-22 18:21 +0000
              Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 14:31 -0400
                Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 14:54 -0400
                Re: ? 1Password Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-22 19:10 +0000
                Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 15:18 -0400
                Re: ? 1Password Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-22 20:03 +0000
                Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 16:16 -0400
                Re: ? 1Password Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-22 20:28 +0000
                Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 16:37 -0400
                Re: ? 1Password Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-22 20:51 +0000
                Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 16:59 -0400
                Re: ? 1Password "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-22 17:13 -0500
                Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-23 10:53 -0400
      Re: ? 1Password Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-22 19:50 +0000
  Re: ? 1Password heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-22 08:38 -0700
    Re: ? 1Password Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 10:48 -0500
      Re: ? 1Password nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-22 12:19 -0400
        Re: ? 1Password Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 11:45 -0500
        Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 14:11 -0400
          Re: ? 1Password nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-22 15:37 -0400
            Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 15:59 -0400
        Re: ? 1Password Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-22 19:56 +0000
  Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 13:32 -0400
    Re: ? 1Password Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-22 19:59 +0000
      Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 16:11 -0400
        Re: ? 1Password Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-23 15:59 +0000
          Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-23 12:28 -0400
            Re: ? 1Password nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-23 13:12 -0400
              Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-23 14:06 -0400
                Re: ? 1Password Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-23 21:21 +0000
                Re: ? 1Password Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-23 17:57 -0400
  Re: ? 1Password dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2016-10-23 07:53 +0100

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