Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

From	"James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
Subject	Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution
Date	2017-04-06 16:38 +0100
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On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 16:24:31 +0100, Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> On 2017-04-06 11:06, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 16:01:08 +0100, Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-04-06 10:18, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2017 15:15:47 +0100, Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-04-04 14:23, Sam E wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/03/2017 04:12 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe its invisible (but not pink :-))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can think of no reference to pink apart from
>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/2x8D4T--0v4 and I'm not sure how that's relevant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I referred to pink. You might notice that "invisible" and "pink" are
>>>>>> both optical properties, and are incompatible. A pink thing reflects all
>>>>>> colors of light, but more red than the others. An invisible thing
>>>>>> doesn't reflect light.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, as in "invisible pink unicorn" which is impossible not just improbable.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Invisible" is ambiguous: a)"not visible because of available light"; or
>>>>> b) "not visible because imaginary or hallucinatory". Your example
>>>>> conflates those two meanings, which it nonsensical.
>>>>
>>>> No, only a) is correct.  God isn't invisible, he just doesn't exist.  Invisible requires that the thing is there but cannot be detected with the naked eye/telescope/camera/whatever.
>>>
>>> The meaning(s) of words do not depend on the reality/existence of the
>>> purported referent(s). Ayers, Wittgenstein, George Steiner et al give
>>> logical and philosophical reasons. Psycholinguists such as Pinker give
>>> the psychological and social reasons. Whether god (or any other entity)
>>> exists or not is irrelevant to what "invisible" means.
>>>
>>> To hold only a) as "correct" implies an essentialist stance about the
>>> meanings of words, aka "words have real meanings". They don't. Ask any
>>> lexicographer.
>>>
>>> BTW, Ayers believed that fictions are nonsense, in the sense that they
>>> are neither true nor false. But they can be understood: if they could
>>> not be understood, you couldn't tell they were fictions, in which case
>>> you couldn't tell they were nonsense.
>>
>> The meaning is quite clear, the thing exists, but cannot be detected:
>> http://www.dictionary.com/browse/invisible
>
> The converse is: If it can't be detected, it doesn't exist. But you can
> detect invisible things, by touch, or smell, or sound, for example. This
> observation implies that "visible" is a subset of "detectable".

Yes, to do with VISIBLE light.  Although in slang form it includes being able to see it with a radar.

> However, people are quite happy to concede that they can't see their
> god, but insist that it exists.

In which case he's invisible.  But to an atheist he isn't invisible, he's non-existant.

> Many of them like to see images of their
> god, which complicates the meaning of in/visible quite a bit. :-)

Is an oasis that isn't really there visible?

-- 
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-27 14:27 -0500
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-27 15:55 -0400
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 19:33 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-28 13:58 -0500
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 21:27 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-28 13:53 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 22:52 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-28 16:57 -0400
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 22:53 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-28 18:09 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-29 18:53 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-28 19:46 -0500
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-29 19:51 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-29 14:20 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-03-29 14:36 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-31 17:34 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-31 12:48 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-03 18:07 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-03 16:23 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-07 19:23 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 17:32 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-07 19:25 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-03-31 13:33 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-03 18:09 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-03 12:41 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-07 19:17 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-03 15:24 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-07 19:21 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-07 11:28 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-07 11:58 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-07 21:54 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-08 09:55 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-11 01:34 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-07 21:51 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-08 21:41 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-03 16:31 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-07 19:24 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-07 14:16 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 18:55 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-10 15:08 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 23:06 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-10 18:14 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-11 00:55 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-10 19:12 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-07 16:25 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 18:55 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-10 15:10 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 23:05 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-10 18:16 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-11 00:55 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-10 20:04 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 19:07 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-31 17:33 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-31 17:33 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-31 13:37 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-03 18:09 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-03 15:22 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-07 19:21 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-03 16:27 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-07 19:24 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 18:56 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-03-29 23:44 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-31 23:10 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-31 19:00 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-31 16:08 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-03 22:15 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-03 14:34 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-07 19:26 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-03 22:15 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-31 23:10 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-28 14:15 -0500
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-28 21:27 +0100
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-28 21:56 +0000
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-28 15:33 -0700
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          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 11:08 -0500
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              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 18:45 -0500
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            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-03-29 11:20 -0700
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-03-29 18:52 -0500
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-03-29 22:39 -0400
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-03-31 20:30 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Sam E <why.should.this@be.email.invalid> - 2017-03-31 15:09 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-03 22:12 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Sam E <why.should.this@be.email.invalid> - 2017-04-04 13:23 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-04 19:41 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-04 14:03 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-04 20:15 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-05 10:15 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-05 12:27 -0500
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-05 22:10 -0400
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-05 22:42 -0400
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-06 10:04 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-05 23:07 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-06 10:27 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-06 15:44 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-06 10:52 -0700
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-09 17:40 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-09 23:57 +0100
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-09 17:41 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-09 23:57 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-09 16:32 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-09 18:44 -0500
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-11 01:38 +0100
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 21:00 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-10 13:04 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 23:06 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2017-04-10 22:11 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 23:05 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-10 13:03 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2017-04-10 22:20 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-10 15:04 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-11 16:48 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-10 19:11 -0700
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-10 22:55 -0400
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-11 08:40 -0700
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-11 16:49 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 21:00 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-10 13:05 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 23:06 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-10 18:13 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 23:28 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-10 18:49 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-11 01:00 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-10 20:09 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-11 01:28 +0100
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-06 16:45 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-06 17:37 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-07 08:12 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-07 08:41 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-07 11:51 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 18:52 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-10 11:06 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 19:11 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-10 14:14 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Sam E <why.should.this@be.email.invalid> - 2017-04-10 14:52 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 20:58 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-06 15:32 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-10 18:52 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-06 15:18 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-06 15:18 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-06 11:01 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-06 16:06 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-06 11:24 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-06 16:38 +0100
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