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For your reference, records indicate that 
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> It would be nice if Apple's accountant came to the conclusion that
> making an upgradeable system that could last 10 years would result in
> higher sales of the units AND regular hardware upgrades by owers than by
> making non upgreadable machines that last only 3-4 years.

I doubt accountants are involved in any of that.  Direction seems to 
have shifted to a style-over-substance model.  Even Apple’s ads are 
terrible these days.  I miss the “Design with a capital D” days of 
Jobs.

And I’m not sure an accountant would even reach your conclusion.  Apple 
releases macOS updates for free, so you’d have to make the case that 
the route of hardware upgrades is more profitable than new sales.  I 
don’t see how that’s possible, unless Apple mandates that *they* must 
be the ones doing those upgrades.

> Also, with CPUs now more or less stable (Moore's law stopped for CPUs),
> longevity and minimalist CPU upgrades may become more frequent.

Many would disagree with your Moore’s Law conclusion, to varying 
degrees.  Regardless, the conclusion doesn’t point to a modular Mac 
making more sense.  If CPUs are stagnating, there’s even *less* reason 
to bother putting them on a socket.

On the other hand, if the industry is advancing in other ways in 
attempts to get more performance, it means the *way* in which the 
components are connecting are changing so rapidly that you can’t set a 
solid standard for modularity, especially for a 10 year time frame.  
That has been true well beyond the CPU for a long time.  There are very 
few things internal to a 2007 Mac *or* PC that would find a place to 
fit inside a 2017 system.

> Apple won't convince someone to upgrade the whole machine for a small
> performance upgrade, but spending a few hundred bucks for new CPU might
> appeal to a lot of people.

Or they can do what they do now: stop supporting the older hardware 
just because it’s old, forcing people to upgrade to a new machine (even 
one with a shittier design) regardless of how little the performance 
improves.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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Mac pro got an update JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-05 15:50 -0400
  Re: Mac pro got an update Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2017-04-05 23:48 +0100
    Re: Mac pro got an update android <here@there.was> - 2017-04-06 04:25 +0200
  Re: Mac pro got an update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-04-05 19:05 -0400
    Re: Mac pro got an update nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-04-05 21:24 -0600
      Re: Mac pro got an update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-05 23:39 -0400
        Re: Mac pro got an update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-04-06 14:30 -0400
      Re: Mac pro got an update JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-06 00:59 -0400
        Re: Mac pro got an update Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com> - 2017-04-06 15:30 +0000
        Re: Mac pro got an update nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-04-06 10:13 -0600
          Re: Mac pro got an update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-06 12:47 -0400
            Re: Mac pro got an update JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-06 13:12 -0400
            Re: Mac pro got an update Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-04-06 19:28 +0100
            Re: Mac pro got an update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-06 19:25 +0000
            Re: Mac pro got an update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-07 03:32 +0000
            Re: Mac pro got an update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-04-07 09:23 -0400
              Re: Mac pro got an update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-07 14:53 +0000
                Re: Mac pro got an update JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-07 13:45 -0400
                Re: Mac pro got an update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-07 17:47 +0000
                Re: Mac pro got an update nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-04-07 12:27 -0600
                Re: Mac pro got an update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-07 14:31 -0400
                Re: Mac pro got an update JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-07 16:23 -0400
                Re: Mac pro got an update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-07 20:34 +0000
                Re: Mac pro got an update nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-04-07 16:42 -0600
                Re: Mac pro got an update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-07 23:05 +0000
                Re: Mac pro got an update JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-07 20:28 -0400
                Re: Mac pro got an update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-08 00:57 +0000
                Re: Mac pro got an update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-08 14:06 +0000
                Re: Mac pro got an update JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-08 14:05 -0400
                Re: Mac pro got an update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-08 14:21 -0400
                Re: Mac pro got an update Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-08 18:29 +0000
                Re: Mac pro got an update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-09 14:34 +0000
                Re: Mac pro got an update JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-09 13:52 -0400
                Re: Mac pro got an update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-09 18:27 +0000
                Re: Mac pro got an update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-07 19:59 -0400
                Re: Mac pro got an update JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-07 20:31 -0400
                Re: Mac pro got an update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-07 20:38 -0400
                Re: Mac pro got an update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-08 14:10 +0000
                Re: Mac pro got an update nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-07 16:36 -0400
                Re: Mac pro got an update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-07 21:33 +0000
                Re: Mac pro got an update Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-04-08 09:35 -0400
  Re: Mac pro got an update Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-07 03:24 +0000

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