Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari?

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari?
Date	2016-12-10 21:15 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<eb39jlF456mU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References	(2 earlier) <o2h89e$ao3$1@gioia.aioe.org> <UpadnU8KMtXQu9HFnZ2dnUU7-WGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <101220161240349584%nospam@nospam.invalid> <jeidnVl3Ludt3dHFnZ2dnUU7-LPNnZ2d@giganews.com> <101220161304426488%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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On 2016-12-10, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <jeidnVl3Ludt3dHFnZ2dnUU7-LPNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
><alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> >> There is no reason to not turn on Filevault.
>> >
>> > yes there are.
>> >
>> > in addition to the guest account issue, two more that come to mind
>> > is that it's a big performance hit on older macs and that a server
>> > won't be able to reboot unattended, such as after a power outage.
>> 
>> A Server is a narrow case.  First off it should have a UPS - that
>> will cover many transients and short outages. 
>
> a ups won't power it forever.
>
> if the outage is longer than the ups supports, then the server shuts
> down (normally intentionally, before the ups is fully dead).

True. And in that case, the only way to get it running again is to
physically supply the FileVault pass code during boot. I keep my
server's startup volume unencrypted for this reason. Even though it can
get around an hour run time on UPS battery, I do want it to be able to
start up once power is restored if I happen to be out of the house.

>> Further, the operator should be able to boot it remotely (?) and have
>> some means of knowing it was down.
>
> the point is that it *can't* be remotely booted because someone has to
> type in the filevault password at the console.

Actually, if the Mac is new enough to support it and you are running
10.8.2 or later, you can use the fdsetup command to restart a
FileVaule-encrypted Mac:

sudo fdesetup authrestart

Obviously this doesn't help if the machine is powered down completely.

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Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-12-09 01:09 -0600
  Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-12-09 23:18 +1300
  Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-10 04:21 +0000
  Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 10:19 -0500
    Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-12-10 09:51 -0600
      Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 10:59 -0500
        Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-10 12:40 -0500
          Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 12:52 -0500
            Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-10 13:04 -0500
              Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 13:23 -0500
              Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-10 21:15 +0000
          Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-10 21:35 +0000
            Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-10 16:52 -0500
              Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 17:42 -0500
              Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-11 01:58 +0000
                Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-11 07:36 -0500
                Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-11 17:38 +0000
                Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-11 09:23 -0500
            Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 17:35 -0500
              Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-11 02:13 +0000
                Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-11 07:36 -0500
                Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-11 09:25 -0500
        Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-12-10 19:09 -0600
          Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-10 20:11 -0500
          Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-11 02:15 +0000
          Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-11 02:50 +0000
            Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-12-11 00:37 -0600
              Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-11 07:36 -0500
          Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-11 08:41 -0500
    Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-10 21:34 +0000
      Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 17:32 -0500
        Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-11 02:12 +0000
      Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-12-10 19:19 -0600

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