Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari?

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Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari?
Date	2016-12-10 13:04 -0500
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In article <jeidnVl3Ludt3dHFnZ2dnUU7-LPNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> >>
> >> There is no reason to not turn on Filevault.
> >
> > yes there are.
> >
> > in addition to the guest account issue, two more that come to mind is
> > that it's a big performance hit on older macs and that a server won't
> > be able to reboot unattended, such as after a power outage.
> 
> Narrow cases.

it doesn't matter if it's narrow or not.

you said there is 'no reason not to turn on filevault', and there are
several reasons. 

you're wrong. simple as that.

> The guest account issue is easily solved with a low privilege account 
> and normally under some supervision of the owner.

that's not the same, and more work for the admin anyway.

> I had FileVault running on a late 2007 iMac and it was no impediment to 
> use through the end of 2013.  It's still running too.

it's running much slower than it otherwise would because a core 2 duo
lacks hardware aes encryption found in core i5/i7 and later.

you might not care, but others do.

> A Server is a narrow case.  First off it should have a UPS - that will 
> cover many transients and short outages. 

a ups won't power it forever.

if the outage is longer than the ups supports, then the server shuts
down (normally intentionally, before the ups is fully dead).

> Further, the operator should 
> be able to boot it remotely (?) and have some means of knowing it was down.

the point is that it *can't* be remotely booted because someone has to
type in the filevault password at the console.

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Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-12-09 01:09 -0600
  Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-12-09 23:18 +1300
  Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-10 04:21 +0000
  Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 10:19 -0500
    Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-12-10 09:51 -0600
      Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 10:59 -0500
        Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-10 12:40 -0500
          Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 12:52 -0500
            Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-10 13:04 -0500
              Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 13:23 -0500
              Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-10 21:15 +0000
          Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-10 21:35 +0000
            Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-10 16:52 -0500
              Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 17:42 -0500
              Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-11 01:58 +0000
                Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-11 07:36 -0500
                Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-11 17:38 +0000
                Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-11 09:23 -0500
            Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 17:35 -0500
              Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-11 02:13 +0000
                Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-11 07:36 -0500
                Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-11 09:25 -0500
        Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-12-10 19:09 -0600
          Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-10 20:11 -0500
          Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-11 02:15 +0000
          Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-11 02:50 +0000
            Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-12-11 00:37 -0600
              Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-11 07:36 -0500
          Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-11 08:41 -0500
    Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-10 21:34 +0000
      Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 17:32 -0500
        Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-11 02:12 +0000
      Re: Mac OS (X)'s guest accounts can't use other apps beside its Safari? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-12-10 19:19 -0600

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