Re: App]le Maps

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: App]le Maps
Date	2015-10-26 22:20 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2015-10-26, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015-10-26 17:59, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-10-26, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-25 18:55, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2015-10-25, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-10-25 12:51, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh so because it works great here, my needs are meager... Right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well obviously you're satisfied with the meagre presentation of traffic;
>>>>
>>>> Thankfully, that need is already fulfilled by my in-dash navigation
>>>> system, which doesn't require me using my phone. : )
>>>
>>> Actually talking about the Mac OS X Maps app.  When planning a trip into
>>> or around the city, the Google traffic data is richer and far more
>>> informative.
>>
>> I've got them side by side. At a glance, it seems the main difference is
>> Apple Maps doesn't display green lines when traffic is fast. Google Maps
>> does, which gives the appearance of more lines, but really isn't all
>> that more useful, IMO.  "Less is better" is right in this regard, IMO.
>> What else is richer and more informative?
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3t81es9513v42uf/Screen%20Shot%202015-10-26%20at%2018.03.17.jpg
> (Side by side - same instant in time)
>
> Apple Maps (OS X) would give me the false impression that "surface" 
> streets would be a better bet than staying on the main arteries.

I did notice that some smaller streets don't appear to be covered by
Apple Maps. I suppose if that really mattered to me I would use Google
instead. My car's navigation system does a satisfactory job of it though
and is available when I need it - on the road. It automatically routs me
away from congestion, which has saved me tons of time and money.

> As to planning, with GM I can look at (if I choose) what the typical 
> load is at (say tomorrow morning) and plan accordingly.

That's a feature I've used before, and it is nice.

>>>>> the meagre (inexistent) ability to edit a route by simply dragging part
>>>>> of the route to another road and the meagre starting of route planning.
>>>>
>>>> That's not something I have done more than a few times. If I want to get
>>>> directions between two places, I typically specify them by name/address.
>>>> And if I want to select an arbitrary place, it's not hard to specify a
>>>> location nearby rather than dropping a pin. It's just not a show stopper
>>>> for me. I understand it is for you, and that's fine. I just disagree
>>>> with your broad statement claiming Apple Maps is useless when that's not
>>>> the case for others.
>>>
>>> I don't believe I claimed it was useless.  Just less usable.
>>
>> You said the only useful feature of Apple Maps was iOS integration. I
>
> For me that is a potentially useful feature as my phone would be loaded 
> with the route as I go.

There are lots of other useful features too.

>> disagree with your opinion, which is the point: you don't speak for
>> everyone.
>
> No I don't.  But I can speak to what GM does v. AM.  And GM does more. 
> Always has.

And I'm not disputing that.

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JR

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  Re: App]le Maps jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-10-22 21:04 +1300
  Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-22 08:48 -0400
    Re: App]le Maps Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 10:10 -0400
      Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-22 16:46 -0400
    Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-22 18:19 +0000
      Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-22 18:05 -0400
        Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-22 18:50 -0400
          Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-22 19:00 -0400
        Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-23 06:51 +0000
          Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-23 14:15 +0000
          Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-23 14:31 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-23 22:41 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:27 -0400
    Re: App]le Maps Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-10-22 19:39 -0400
      Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-22 23:54 +0000
      Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-23 14:39 -0400
        Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-23 14:47 -0400
          Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-23 18:52 +0000
            Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:18 -0400
              Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-24 14:59 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:17 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 06:22 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 17:04 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 21:17 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 19:22 -0400
          Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-23 17:56 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-23 18:05 -0400
              Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:24 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 16:21 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-24 18:23 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 19:21 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:18 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-25 16:51 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-24 17:37 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-23 22:14 +0000
            Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-23 22:45 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-23 19:50 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-23 20:21 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 01:41 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:42 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 16:26 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:19 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-24 03:06 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:32 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-10-23 21:32 -0400
          Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:17 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-24 14:57 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-24 13:46 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-24 18:12 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-24 13:45 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-24 17:57 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:14 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 16:21 +0000
            Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-24 17:37 -0400
              Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-24 20:55 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-24 21:05 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-10-25 16:57 +1300
                Re: App]le Maps dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-10-25 16:48 +1100
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:25 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-10-25 15:00 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 06:19 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Király <ggrandish@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 16:39 -0700
        Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-23 18:50 +0000
          Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:18 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2015-10-24 12:09 -0400
              Re: App]le Maps Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-10-24 13:27 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-10-24 10:40 -0700
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 19:20 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:21 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 16:21 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:23 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-25 16:51 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 18:24 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-25 22:55 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 17:03 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 21:59 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 18:12 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 22:20 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 18:27 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 22:38 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 18:53 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 01:26 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 08:53 -0700
                Re: App]le Maps Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 16:51 -0700
        Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-23 17:55 -0400
  Re: App]le Maps me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-10-22 13:12 +0000
    Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-22 11:28 -0400
    Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-22 13:08 -0400

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