Re: App]le Maps

Subject	Re: App]le Maps
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
References	(2 earlier) <221020151939385313%star@sky.net> <jMOdnQ1ONvR_47fLnZ2dnUU7-dOdnZ2d@giganews.com> <231020151447353963%nospam@nospam.invalid> <562aad24$0$62773$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com> <slrnn2le7n.bk9.g.kreme@amelia.local>
From	Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date	2015-10-24 10:32 -0400
Message-ID	<7cmdncyq2f_7C7bLnZ2dnUU7-XWdnZ2d@giganews.com> (permalink)

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On 2015-10-23 18:45, Lewis wrote:
> In message <562aad24$0$62773$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>
>    JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015-10-23 14:47, nospam wrote:
>
>>> google refused to allow turn by turn directions, so apple had no choice
>>> but do their own maps.
>
>> This was during Steve Jobs era. Nobody really knows what really went on.
>
> We know for a FACT (you may need to look that word up) that Google did
> not allow turn-by-turn directions in iOS.
>
> We know for a FACT (you may need to look that word up) that Apple had
> turn-by-turn directions from the beginning with their mapping app.
>
> We know for a FACT (you may need to look that word up) that Google added
> turn-by=turn directions to their app quite a while after Apple dumped
> Google maps.

What happened was one co. wouldn't trade features against the other co. 
  Both companies were not in "good faith" negotiating mode.

eg: Google wanted branding and the Latitude feature.  Apple wanted 
turn-by-turn.  Apple refused the former.  Google refused the later. 
What order?  Doesn't matter.  They just wouldn't trade.


>
>> Guess what ? It still does because that is what people use because Apple
>> Maps, while cute, is not reliable as a mapping product.
>
> Most iOS users use Apple Maps.

Source?

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App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-22 04:01 -0400
  Re: App]le Maps jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-10-22 21:04 +1300
  Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-22 08:48 -0400
    Re: App]le Maps Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 10:10 -0400
      Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-22 16:46 -0400
    Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-22 18:19 +0000
      Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-22 18:05 -0400
        Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-22 18:50 -0400
          Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-22 19:00 -0400
        Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-23 06:51 +0000
          Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-23 14:15 +0000
          Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-23 14:31 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-23 22:41 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:27 -0400
    Re: App]le Maps Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-10-22 19:39 -0400
      Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-22 23:54 +0000
      Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-23 14:39 -0400
        Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-23 14:47 -0400
          Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-23 18:52 +0000
            Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:18 -0400
              Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-24 14:59 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:17 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 06:22 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 17:04 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 21:17 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 19:22 -0400
          Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-23 17:56 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-23 18:05 -0400
              Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:24 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 16:21 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-24 18:23 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 19:21 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:18 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-25 16:51 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-24 17:37 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-23 22:14 +0000
            Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-23 22:45 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-23 19:50 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-23 20:21 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 01:41 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:42 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 16:26 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:19 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-24 03:06 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:32 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-10-23 21:32 -0400
          Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:17 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-24 14:57 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-24 13:46 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-24 18:12 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-24 13:45 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-24 17:57 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:14 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 16:21 +0000
            Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-24 17:37 -0400
              Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-24 20:55 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-24 21:05 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-10-25 16:57 +1300
                Re: App]le Maps dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-10-25 16:48 +1100
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:25 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-10-25 15:00 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-26 06:19 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Király <ggrandish@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 16:39 -0700
        Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-23 18:50 +0000
          Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-24 10:18 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2015-10-24 12:09 -0400
              Re: App]le Maps Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-10-24 13:27 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-10-24 10:40 -0700
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 19:20 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:21 -0400
            Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-24 16:21 +0000
              Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 09:23 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-25 16:51 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-25 18:24 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-25 22:55 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 17:03 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 21:59 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 18:12 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 22:20 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 18:27 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-26 22:38 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-26 18:53 -0400
                Re: App]le Maps Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-27 01:26 +0000
                Re: App]le Maps Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 08:53 -0700
                Re: App]le Maps Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 16:51 -0700
        Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-23 17:55 -0400
  Re: App]le Maps me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-10-22 13:12 +0000
    Re: App]le Maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-22 11:28 -0400
    Re: App]le Maps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-22 13:08 -0400

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