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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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On 2017-05-04 15:45, Snit wrote:
> On 5/4/17, 12:38 PM, in article op.yzqbii15js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 04 May 2017 20:19:26 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/4/17, 12:01 PM, in article op.yzp9s7dhjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
[...]
>>>> bELIVING IN SHITE LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE IS AS BAD AS BEING RELIGIOUS.
>>>>
>>>> Shit, caps lock, can't be bothered rewriting.
>>>
>>> I accept science and the data / evidence that backs it and deny the
>>> anti-science nonsense people use to promote socialism for the rich. I did
>>> not know you were one of the ones pushing such socialism. For me it is fine
>>> that people disagree on if we should socialize the costs of using ancient
>>> stores of carbon, but I wish those who pushed for us to do so would be
>>> direct and admit that is what they are pushing for. The fact they use
>>> science denial to get to that goal shows they cannot really support the
>>> socialism they are backing.
>>
>> It's nothing to do with socialism.
>
> Socializing the costs of using ancient stores of carbon clearly has a LOT to
> do with socialism... though it is for the rich.

JWS doesn't understand that "socialise costs" is an economics term, not 
a political one. Hey, James, it means "not paying for any damage you do 
to the air, water, soil, etc and so on and so forth". AKA shifting the 
cost of "externals" onto the general economy. It's the main reason the 
"free market" has never been free, and has repeatedly failed. Adam 
Smith's ideal free market works if and only if all prices measure the 
actual cost of providing the goods and services on offer. Since prices 
don't and never will do this, there is no such thing as a free market.

>> In fact it's the capitalists who "deny" climate change.  It's the left wing
>> greenie treehuggers who think we have the power to change the climate more
>> than that huge nuclear reaction in the sky.

Climate is a chaotic system, in which the effects of small changes in 
some variable increase rapidly once it reaches a certain value, because 
of inter-dependent feedback loops. If JWS has had as much technical 
experience as he claims, he knows what feedback is, so he should have no 
trouble understanding why doubling the CO2 content of the atmosphere 
will trigger climate changes. But I don't think he's had one-tenth of 
the technical experience or expertise that he claims. He's a yob, 
ignorant as a boot.

The only unknown about global warming is how fast it will proceed. It 
has already begun. It will probably accelerate.

-- 
Best,
Wolf K
https://kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"What good is it having lower taxes when you can’t drink the water?”

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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 17:42 +0100
  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 10:39 -0700
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 19:10 +0100
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 11:22 -0700
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 20:01 +0100
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 12:19 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 20:38 +0100
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 12:45 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 21:48 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 14:34 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-04 17:40 -0400
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 22:52 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 16:10 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 15:25 -0700

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