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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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On 5/4/17, 12:38 PM, in article op.yzqbii15js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 04 May 2017 20:19:26 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/4/17, 12:01 PM, in article op.yzp9s7dhjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 04 May 2017 19:22:28 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 5/4/17, 11:10 AM, in article op.yzp7e8ozjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>>>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ...
>>>>>>> I thought it was the same the world over.  Right wing is capitalist,
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> favour business, rich folk, etc.  Left wing is communist, they steal
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> money and spend it on people who don't work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the US both parties are paid for and beholden to the wealthy. The
>>>>>> Democrats give more lip service and actual do work to support the people
>>>>>> more, but in the end both support massive wealth redistribution to very
>>>>>> rich. This can be shown by their voting records and the ever-growing
>>>>>> income
>>>>>> inequality.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So you have right wing and more right wing.
>>>> 
>>>> Basically, yes.
>>> 
>>> Good for you.  The UK is more like Russia.
>>> 
>>>>>> So those who can't work or whatever do get some crumbs, but most of the
>>>>>> money taken from us goes to the wealthiest one tenth of one percent. The
>>>>>> wealth redistribution is absolutely insane.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is also why so many in the US deny basic climate science... it is just
>>>>>> another (and huge) way to provide socialism to the rich.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or maybe they're clever enough to realise we are not affecting the
>>>>> climate.
>>>> 
>>>> I do not see denial of evidence, data, and science as being "clever" in any
>>>> way... other than as a clever way to push even more socialism for the rich.
>>>> And in the US it works... something like half our Senators deny basic
>>>> science for the sake of helping the wealthy.
>>> 
>>> bELIVING IN SHITE LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE IS AS BAD AS BEING RELIGIOUS.
>>> 
>>> Shit, caps lock, can't be bothered rewriting.
>> 
>> I accept science and the data / evidence that backs it and deny the
>> anti-science nonsense people use to promote socialism for the rich. I did
>> not know you were one of the ones pushing such socialism. For me it is fine
>> that people disagree on if we should socialize the costs of using ancient
>> stores of carbon, but I wish those who pushed for us to do so would be
>> direct and admit that is what they are pushing for. The fact they use
>> science denial to get to that goal shows they cannot really support the
>> socialism they are backing.
> 
> It's nothing to do with socialism.

Socializing the costs of using ancient stores of carbon clearly has a LOT to
do with socialism... though it is for the rich.

> In fact it's the capitalists who "deny" climate change.  It's the left wing
> greenie treehuggers who think we have the power to change the climate more
> than that huge nuclear reaction in the sky.

Who do you think said man-made global climate change has a bigger impact
than the sun? 

Comes down to you will go to science denial to back socialism for the rich.
That is pretty much 100% predictable in such conversations. Could be you do
not even know you are doing this... some are actually naïve enough to
believe the oil industry and the like who push such nonsense.

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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 17:42 +0100
  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 10:39 -0700
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 19:10 +0100
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 11:22 -0700
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 20:01 +0100
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 12:19 -0700
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 20:38 +0100
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 12:45 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 21:48 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 14:34 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-04 17:40 -0400
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 22:52 +0100
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 16:10 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 15:25 -0700

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