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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.
Date 2017-05-06 09:53 -0700
Message-ID <D5334D7C.A3CAE%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References (22 earlier) <oe61fg$4cs$3@dont-email.me> <D52BDC30.A2A6A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <oe642m$ja9$1@dont-email.me> <D52BE8F5.A2A7D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <oek2ub$lbt$1@dont-email.me>

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On 5/6/17, 1:53 AM, in article oek2ub$lbt$1@dont-email.me, "Sprang"
<spring@sprung.invalid> wrote:

... 
>> I used it to help educate you and show your where your claim was in error:
>> 
>>   Sprang:
>>     -----
>>     The Sun wobbling isn't an orbit.
>>     -----
> 
> Well, actually, Sprang insist the Earth orbits the Sun.
> You're trying to SNIP for the win :)

That is a different topic... you have two different incorrect claims:

   Sprang:
    -----
    The Sun wobbling isn't an orbit.
    -----

Which we know is not true:

  NASA <https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/barycenter>:
    -----
    The sun, Earth, and all of the planets in the solar system
    orbit around this barycenter.
    -----

And then also:

  Sprang:
    -----
    Well, actually, Sprang insist the Earth orbits the Sun.
    -----

Which is shown to be wrong by the same NASA quote. So you have made claims
which are baseless and contrary to well established science. Fair enough.
Now the question is what you want to do with the knowledge you have been
shown. Deny it? Accept it? Continue to insist you are right even in the
absence of any support?

I suspect the latter.

What you CERTAINLY will not do is show any support. That is a given.
 
>>   NASA:
>>     -----
>>     The sun, Earth, and all of the planets in the solar system
>>     orbit around this barycenter.
>>     -----
>>
> Yeah, even that's incorrect.
> There isn't *one* barycenter, so there is no *this barycenter*.
> It is different for each object.
> These are math equations that describe planetary motions.
> All the planets *still* orbit the Sun.

You can speak of the barycenter between two objects, but to understand the
movement of the sun (and, really, even other objects in the solar system)
you should understand (extended quote from the same link):
    -----
    Our entire solar system also has a barycenter. The sun, Earth,
    and all of the planets in the solar system orbit around this
    barycenter. It is the center of mass of every object in the
    solar system combined.
    -----

> Imagine God gets a bug up his butt, and just poofs the Sun out of existance.
> Will the planets still orbit these barycenters?

Their movement would be enough to have them not orbit each other... much as
the moon is slowly drifting away from the Earth (by about 4 cm a year) and
some day will not orbit it. It does not mean we cannot calculate the
barycenter of the two right now!

>>> They send stuff to the wrong planet cause metric and standard confuses them.
>>> They're being replaced by private companies.
>>> 
>>> Posters and models will be their future. :)
>> 
>> Well, many in our government are so ignorant of science they deny man-made
>> global climate change... of course we are struggling because of it.
> 
> My yard has never been greener. :)
> And the atrazine really put the weed's dick in the dirt.

So you have nothing to say on the topic. OK.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:16 -0700
  Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:15 +0000
    Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:28 -0700
      Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:43 +0000
        Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:48 -0700
          Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:51 +0000
            Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 16:55 -0700
              Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 23:55 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:08 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:17 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:33 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 00:46 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 17:52 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 01:02 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 18:23 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-01 01:47 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:18 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 08:53 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 09:53 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 17:30 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 10:44 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 17:54 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 12:05 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 19:37 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-05-06 22:09 +0200
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                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 13:22 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 13:20 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 20:28 +0000
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 13:40 -0700
                Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-05-06 22:23 +0000
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