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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
Subject Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution
Date 2017-04-20 09:03 -0700
Message-ID <D51E29F9.A076F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References (18 earlier) <op.yyq8bjkijs98qf@red.lan> <D517EAEF.9F311%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <op.yyzwyhibjs98qf@red.lan> <D51E1C40.A0726%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <OO4KA.75055$5a6.59922@fx29.iad>

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On 4/20/17, 8:52 AM, in article OO4KA.75055$5a6.59922@fx29.iad, "Wolf K"
<wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> On 2017-04-20 11:05, Snit wrote:
>> On 4/20/17, 6:26 AM, in article op.yyzwyhibjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>> JWS has a limited range of of perceptions, sensory, emotional, and
>>>>>>> intellectual. He's unaware of how little he knows, but insists that his
>>>>>>> superior intelligence validates all his opinions. I don't believe
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> he says about his brain power, but even if he has a high IQ, it's
>>>>>>> useless
>>>>>>> if it has nothing to work with.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> IQ is correlated well with how well you will do on other IQ tests. Not
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> else. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's a damn good guide.
>>>> 
>>>> To what?
>>> 
>>> Intelligence - the clue is in the name "intelligence quota".
> 
> It's "intelligence quotient", a ratio. It's the ratio of your score to
> the normalised score for your demographic. It has little general validity.

Correct.

>> And what do you think that correlates well with?
> 
> IQ tests correlate well with IQ tests: you tend to get the same score
> over time, assuming the test is normalised to your age group.

Again, correct. 

> IQ tests have been renormalised many times. Nowadays, an average US
> adult would score around 120 on a test from 50-60 years ago. Related
> tests (SAT, for example), have even less general validity than IQ scores.
> 
> BTW, all objective tests correlate very well with themselves, and all
> are confounded by factors the test makers have some trouble compensating
> for. It's one of the reasons that a sizeable proportion of first
> diagnoses of illness are wrong: around 30% in the emergency department,
> and typically around half that at the family doctor's.
> 
> One thing nobody seems to pay much attention to is that the meaning of
> the numbers is not objective. A 70% score on an objective test may be
> Good (1st reading test on a text), Pass (2nd reading test on the same
> text some time later), or Fail (3rd and final reading test). Eg, I'd
> want my surgeon to demonstrate 100% knowledge of where my bits and
> pieces are. The Pass on Ontario's written driving test is 80%.
> 
> The fixation on numbers as "objective" is a pernicious superstition.

Your response shows great intelligence. Or at least good knowledge of the
subject presented in a reasoned way. :)

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-12 09:38 -0700
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-15 21:53 +0100
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-15 15:21 -0700
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-20 14:26 +0100
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-20 08:05 -0700
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-20 16:11 +0100
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-20 08:22 -0700
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-20 16:35 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-20 08:49 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-20 17:21 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-20 09:37 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-20 18:19 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-20 10:55 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-20 17:21 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-20 09:44 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-20 18:19 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-20 10:35 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-20 14:01 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-20 20:09 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-20 14:47 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-20 21:04 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-20 15:31 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-20 22:04 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-20 21:08 +0000
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-20 17:06 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-20 23:16 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-20 17:23 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-20 15:26 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-20 17:29 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-20 15:18 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-20 12:34 -0700
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-20 11:56 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-20 17:22 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-20 11:52 -0400
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-20 09:03 -0700

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