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Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions
Date 2017-02-20 16:02 -0500
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References <190220171138059200%otto@bogus.address.com> <1n1qlpi.1wqc4am1g1w4nfN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> <o8fjds$3v9$1@dont-email.me>

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In article <o8fjds$3v9$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh>
wrote:

> >> Disk Utility. Verify/Repair disk permissions is gone. Or is it now part
> >> of FirstAid? Was it even necessary?
> >
> > Again, removed feature. Much of its reason to exist was to verify/repair
> > permissions of system files to correct cases where the user or third
> > party software or installer packages having interfered with something.
> >
> > Since El Capitan introduced System Integrity Protection, most of the
> > operating system cannot be modified by the user or by non-Apple
> > software, therefore most of the reason for verify/repair permissions has
> > been eliminated.
> >
> > The system still does an automatic verify/repair permissions as part of
> > software updates, and there is a lower level tool available via the
> > command line (or accessible through third party utilities) if you really
> > want to repair permissions.
> 
> The question I have, David, is that time and again I have seen 
> _Apple's_own_ installers leave a permissions mess which must be cleaned 
> up by running Repair Permissions in Disk Utilities.

no they don't

> In the past (yes, 
> growing distant today), I have fixed significant problems (apps not 
> launching, docs not opening, strange behavior, and other glitches) by 
> repairing permissions.

very few, if any, and none caused by apple.

repair permissions was the biggest placebo since rebuilding the desktop
of old. 

> So has Apple finally fixed its own installers and updaters so they get 
> the perms correct?

it wasn't apple's fault, so there was nothing for them to fix.

repair permissions was there for shitty third party tools, and now with
sip, the problems are for all intents, not possible to occur.

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Sierra Upgrade Questions Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2017-02-19 11:38 -0800
  Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-02-20 09:03 +1300
    Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-02-19 21:27 -0700
      Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-20 05:04 +0000
        Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-02-19 21:15 -0800
    Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> - 2017-02-20 15:28 -0500
      Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-20 20:41 +0000
        Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> - 2017-02-21 16:33 -0500
          Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-21 17:04 -0500
          Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-22 00:04 +0000
            Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> - 2017-02-23 14:45 -0500
              Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-23 15:01 -0500
      Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-20 16:02 -0500
        Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> - 2017-02-21 16:33 -0500
          Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-21 17:04 -0500
          Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-22 00:05 +0000
  Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-19 15:10 -0500
    Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2017-02-19 13:17 -0800

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