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Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks?

From Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
Subject Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks?
Date 2020-11-14 00:54 +0000
Organization Miskatonic U
Message-ID <slrnrquali.1fdt.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> (permalink)
References (6 earlier) <uOfrH.514768$RY8.72367@fx48.iad> <121120201421024996%nospam@nospam.invalid> <0VyrH.145047$Ml5.103301@fx24.iad> <slrnrqtqke.12cb.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> <HhCrH.320247$GQ4.306084@fx02.iad>

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In message <HhCrH.320247$GQ4.306084@fx02.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
> On 2020-11-13 15:20, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <0VyrH.145047$Ml5.103301@fx24.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>>> On 2020-11-12 14:21, nospam wrote:
>>>> In article <uOfrH.514768$RY8.72367@fx48.iad>, JF Mezei
>>>> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Asll we know is "unified memory" which is meaningless marketing mumble
>>>>> jumble.
>>>>
>>>> nonsense.
>> 
>>> It is marketing speak to a degree.  Per a Wikipedia article[1] the SOC
>>> uses 3733 MHz LPDDR4X spec'd SDRAM as an included component within the
>>> SOC.  Still needs a memory manager though that may be more deeply
>>> integrated in the CPU; likely has DMA of some kind, esp. for the GPU,
>>> but other I/O as well.
>> 
>>> [1] that source has no reference so I declare escape clause.  But it's a
>>> good bet if someone has seen that in System Info declared as such on the
>>> many, many developer systems out there.
>> 
>> What many many developer systems out there?

> Thousands...

Nonsense.

>> (The DTK is not an M1 machine).

> I assumed it was.

You assumed wrong. As was detailed at the time it is a A12X. Literally
an iPad chip. It does not have unified memory. It does not have
USB-4/TB. It is not the same chip *at all*

> Nevertheless, the use of the memory model cited above is quite
> possible and that that part of the fab is supplied by the chip maker
> whether on the same wafer or other.

The chip maker supplies exactly what Apple designed, nothing more,
nothing less.

> And/or that someone made the same assumption that I did about the memory 
> found on the dev kit.

And that person was equally wrong.



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Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2020-11-11 14:46 -0600
  Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-11 12:57 -0800
    Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2020-11-11 16:40 -0600
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        Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2020-11-11 20:00 -0600
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          Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-12 15:09 +1300
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      Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-11 15:27 -0800
        Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-12 12:50 +1300
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        Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-11 20:15 -0500
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            Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-12 14:20 -0500
            Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-13 10:15 +0000
            Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-13 11:43 -0500
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              Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-13 13:22 -0500
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                Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-13 16:42 +0000
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  Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-11 22:22 +0000
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      Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-12 14:48 +0000
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      Re: Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks? Tim <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2020-11-11 22:46 +0000
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