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Odd iTunes titling problem. Can you help?

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  Odd iTunes titling problem. Can you help? Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2017-02-14 12:27 -0500
    Re: Odd iTunes titling problem. Can you help? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-02-15 10:35 +1300
      Re: Odd iTunes titling problem. Can you help? Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2017-02-14 18:42 -0500
      Re: Odd iTunes titling problem. Can you help? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-02-16 11:23 +0000

#37606 — Odd iTunes titling problem. Can you help?

I have three different albums called "Discoveries" by three different 
artists.  If I use the same name in the Album field iTunes tries to 
combine them into one so I had to title them "Discoveries CA", 
"Discoveries AP" and "Discoveries OP" for Cannonball Adderley, Art 
Pepper and Oscar Pettiford.  In each case the Artist field contains the 
name.

At the same time I have a number of Mosaic sets I called "The Complete 
Blue Note Recordings."  The artist field indicates who is in each set. 
For some reason, iTunes treats these as separate albums even though the 
Album titles are identical.

Obviously, I would like to get Discoveries to work the same way but I 
can't determine why one works and one doesn't.

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#37607

Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

> I have three different albums called "Discoveries" by three different
> artists.  If I use the same name in the Album field iTunes tries to 
> combine them into one so I had to title them "Discoveries CA", 
> "Discoveries AP" and "Discoveries OP" for Cannonball Adderley, Art 
> Pepper and Oscar Pettiford.  In each case the Artist field contains the
> name.

I can't explain this one, unless all three albums have the same text in
Album Artist or one of the Sort fields is interfering.

> At the same time I have a number of Mosaic sets I called "The Complete
> Blue Note Recordings."  The artist field indicates who is in each set.
> For some reason, iTunes treats these as separate albums even though the
> Album titles are identical.

You need to set Album Artist to the same value for this to be a single
album. With separate values in Artist and a blank Album Artist, iTunes
shows them as separate albums.

(The Compilation option may also work without needing to set Album
Artist but I usually set Album Artist anyway, to "Various Artists" if
nothing else is appropriate.)

> Obviously, I would like to get Discoveries to work the same way but I
> can't determine why one works and one doesn't.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#37608

On 2/14/17 4:35 PM, David Empson wrote:
> Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:
>
>> I have three different albums called "Discoveries" by three different
>> artists.  If I use the same name in the Album field iTunes tries to
>> combine them into one so I had to title them "Discoveries CA",
>> "Discoveries AP" and "Discoveries OP" for Cannonball Adderley, Art
>> Pepper and Oscar Pettiford.  In each case the Artist field contains the
>> name.
>
> I can't explain this one, unless all three albums have the same text in
> Album Artist or one of the Sort fields is interfering.
>
>> At the same time I have a number of Mosaic sets I called "The Complete
>> Blue Note Recordings."  The artist field indicates who is in each set.
>> For some reason, iTunes treats these as separate albums even though the
>> Album titles are identical.
>
> You need to set Album Artist to the same value for this to be a single
> album. With separate values in Artist and a blank Album Artist, iTunes
> shows them as separate albums.
>
> (The Compilation option may also work without needing to set Album
> Artist but I usually set Album Artist anyway, to "Various Artists" if
> nothing else is appropriate.)
>
>> Obviously, I would like to get Discoveries to work the same way but I
>> can't determine why one works and one doesn't.
>

Album Artist is the key.  The Blue Note sets all had the Album Artist 
set to match the Artist field.  The Discoveries albums did not have the 
Album Artist set.  When I corrected that and removed the artist 
abbreviations from the Album title, they all showed up as individual 
albums, the way they should have.

Thanks.

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#37609

In message <1n1hg6y.1u1veg211y1mrcN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

>> I have three different albums called "Discoveries" by three different
>> artists.  If I use the same name in the Album field iTunes tries to 
>> combine them into one so I had to title them "Discoveries CA", 
>> "Discoveries AP" and "Discoveries OP" for Cannonball Adderley, Art 
>> Pepper and Oscar Pettiford.  In each case the Artist field contains the
>> name.

> I can't explain this one, unless all three albums have the same text in
> Album Artist or one of the Sort fields is interfering.

Yeah, I have several different albums with the same name and have never
had iTunes group them into a single album.

"Greatest Hits" and "Live" for example.

>> At the same time I have a number of Mosaic sets I called "The Complete
>> Blue Note Recordings."  The artist field indicates who is in each set.
>> For some reason, iTunes treats these as separate albums even though the
>> Album titles are identical.

> You need to set Album Artist to the same value for this to be a single
> album. With separate values in Artist and a blank Album Artist, iTunes
> shows them as separate albums.

Yes.

> (The Compilation option may also work without needing to set Album
> Artist but I usually set Album Artist anyway, to "Various Artists" if
> nothing else is appropriate.)

I only use "Various Artists" for things like a cast album where the
specific singer on a specific song doesn't matter. Otherwise, on
compilation, I set artists by track because there is no overarching work
tying the tracks together.

-- 
The cat turned and tried to find a place of safety in the suit's
breastplate. He was beginning to doubt he'd make it through the knight.

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