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  El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-01 13:26 -0400
    Re: El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 17:47 +0000
      Re: El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-01 21:35 -0400
      Re: El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-02 16:38 -0400
        Re: El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-02 20:50 +0000
          Re: El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-02 20:57 +0000
            Re: El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-02 17:58 -0400
              Re: El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-02 22:06 +0000
          Re: El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-02 17:47 -0400
            Re: El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-02 21:57 +0000
            Re: El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2015-10-03 08:49 -0400
              Re: El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-03 09:26 -0400
              Re: El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-03 09:36 -0400

#32306 — El Capitan - known apps (no) problems list

May I propose that, rather than people posting individual app threads, 
that people post what is having issues and optionally what is not?
(And rather than comment on the proposal, please either ignore it or add 
to it.  I know, I know ...)

List below is "as best I've found out" - no g'tee, w'tee or shirt'tee.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Fusion 7.1.x		-	Works under 10.11 (per VMWare Forum)

			-	10.11 does not work under 7.1.1 - but
				there is a workaround.

Adobe C2 ..CS5		-	light testing - OK.  May require Java
				re-install

(More Adobe: 
http://blog.conradchavez.com/2015/09/30/os-x-10-11-el-capitan-will-adobe-software-work/ 
)

MS Office 2008		-	?	I'll be upgrading when the new
				v. comes out, but could block me from
				updating to 10.11 for now.

MS Office 2011		-	OK - some users reporting issues, esp.
				with Outlook.

Thunderbird		-	Ambiguous replies found.  v38 should
				work.

VueScan			- 	Per Hamrick site, OK.  Updated support
				from VS 9.5.20 for 10.11


Google Earth		-	?

Brother Printer CC	-	Update available at Brother site

Flight Radar 24		-	?

Handbrake		-	?  (Ambiguous info found)

HMA Pro VPN		-	Support at HMA told me all should be
				well

Mindnode 1.0		-	Ambiguous - a new Mindnode 2.0 has been
				launched for $30.  Not worth it IMO.  So
				1.0 better work!

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#32307

Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> May I propose that, rather than people posting individual app threads, 
> that people post what is having issues and optionally what is not?

There's a web site for that:

<http://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=OS X>

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#32329

On 2015-10-01 13:47, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> May I propose that, rather than people posting individual app threads,
>> that people post what is having issues and optionally what is not?
>
> There's a web site for that:
>
> <http://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=OS X>

Burst me bubble then.

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#32338

On 2015-10-01 13:47, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> May I propose that, rather than people posting individual app threads,
>> that people post what is having issues and optionally what is not?
>
> There's a web site for that:
>
> <http://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=OS X>


Doesn't have versions of the apps.  So, eg: I want to know if Fusion 7.1 
works, roaring apps doesn't show the particular v. of Fusion that works...

Further, it's still showing blue for a lot of apps under 10.11 ... 
(unknown).

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#32339

On 2015-10-02, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015-10-01 13:47, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> May I propose that, rather than people posting individual app threads,
>>> that people post what is having issues and optionally what is not?
>>
>> There's a web site for that:
>>
>> <http://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=OS X>
>
>
> Doesn't have versions of the apps.  So, eg: I want to know if Fusion 7.1 
> works, roaring apps doesn't show the particular v. of Fusion that works...

It does have app versions. Some examples:

<http://roaringapps.com/app/1password>
<http://roaringapps.com/app/microsoft-office-2011>
<http://roaringapps.com/app/vmware-fusion-502-503>

> Further, it's still showing blue for a lot of apps under 10.11 ... 
> (unknown).

It's crowd sourced, so if you have details you should submit them. And
others will be contributing even if you don't.

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#32340

On 2015-10-02, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2015-10-02, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015-10-01 13:47, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> May I propose that, rather than people posting individual app threads,
>>>> that people post what is having issues and optionally what is not?
>>>
>>> There's a web site for that:
>>>
>>> <http://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=OS X>
>>
>> Doesn't have versions of the apps.  So, eg: I want to know if Fusion 7.1 
>> works, roaring apps doesn't show the particular v. of Fusion that works...
>
> It does have app versions. Some examples:
>
><http://roaringapps.com/app/1password>
><http://roaringapps.com/app/microsoft-office-2011>
><http://roaringapps.com/app/vmware-fusion-502-503>

I just filtered the main listing for "VMware Fusion" and see multiple
hits. The "vmware-fusion-502-503" entry in the above link is a bit dated
compared with this one:

<http://roaringapps.com/app/vmware-fusion>

So it appears version 7.0.1 is confirmed to work in El Capitan.

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#32343

On 2015-10-02 16:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-10-02, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-10-02, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-01 13:47, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>> May I propose that, rather than people posting individual app threads,
>>>>> that people post what is having issues and optionally what is not?
>>>>
>>>> There's a web site for that:
>>>>
>>>> <http://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=OS X>
>>>
>>> Doesn't have versions of the apps.  So, eg: I want to know if Fusion 7.1
>>> works, roaring apps doesn't show the particular v. of Fusion that works...
>>
>> It does have app versions. Some examples:
>>
>> <http://roaringapps.com/app/1password>
>> <http://roaringapps.com/app/microsoft-office-2011>
>> <http://roaringapps.com/app/vmware-fusion-502-503>
>
> I just filtered the main listing for "VMware Fusion" and see multiple
> hits. The "vmware-fusion-502-503" entry in the above link is a bit dated
> compared with this one:
>
> <http://roaringapps.com/app/vmware-fusion>
>
> So it appears version 7.0.1 is confirmed to work in El Capitan.

That's good news  (I'm at 7.1.2 but if .0.1 works, 7.1.2 is likely to ...)

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#32344

On 2015-10-02, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015-10-02 16:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-10-02, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-02, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> On 2015-10-01 13:47, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> May I propose that, rather than people posting individual app threads,
>>>>>> that people post what is having issues and optionally what is not?
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a web site for that:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=OS X>
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't have versions of the apps.  So, eg: I want to know if Fusion 7.1
>>>> works, roaring apps doesn't show the particular v. of Fusion that works...
>>>
>>> It does have app versions. Some examples:
>>>
>>> <http://roaringapps.com/app/1password>
>>> <http://roaringapps.com/app/microsoft-office-2011>
>>> <http://roaringapps.com/app/vmware-fusion-502-503>
>>
>> I just filtered the main listing for "VMware Fusion" and see multiple
>> hits. The "vmware-fusion-502-503" entry in the above link is a bit dated
>> compared with this one:
>>
>> <http://roaringapps.com/app/vmware-fusion>
>>
>> So it appears version 7.0.1 is confirmed to work in El Capitan.
>
> That's good news  (I'm at 7.1.2 but if .0.1 works, 7.1.2 is likely to ...)

Still running 6.0.6 here in Yosemite. : D At some point I'll be forced
to upgrade...

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#32341

On 2015-10-02 16:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-10-02, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015-10-01 13:47, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> May I propose that, rather than people posting individual app threads,
>>>> that people post what is having issues and optionally what is not?
>>>
>>> There's a web site for that:
>>>
>>> <http://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=OS X>
>>
>>
>> Doesn't have versions of the apps.  So, eg: I want to know if Fusion 7.1
>> works, roaring apps doesn't show the particular v. of Fusion that works...
>
> It does have app versions. Some examples:
>
> <http://roaringapps.com/app/1password>
> <http://roaringapps.com/app/microsoft-office-2011>
> <http://roaringapps.com/app/vmware-fusion-502-503>

Thanks.  I hadn't drilled down by app name.

To date a lot of the 10.11 status for my key apps are still "blue"


>
>> Further, it's still showing blue for a lot of apps under 10.11 ...
>> (unknown).
>
> It's crowd sourced, so if you have details you should submit them. And
> others will be contributing even if you don't.

I will once I install 10.11 ... OTOH I don't want to install it until 
most of my apps are shown to work well.  I can wait for MS Office "2016" 
(sometime this fall) if need be.  I can also install it on my SO's MBA 
in the meantime and test many of the apps...


(DL'd it yesterday at work and made a USB install 'disk' for all the Macs).

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#32342

On 2015-10-02, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015-10-02 16:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-10-02, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-01 13:47, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>> May I propose that, rather than people posting individual app threads,
>>>>> that people post what is having issues and optionally what is not?
>>>>
>>>> There's a web site for that:
>>>>
>>>> <http://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=OS X>
>>>
>>> Doesn't have versions of the apps.  So, eg: I want to know if Fusion 7.1
>>> works, roaring apps doesn't show the particular v. of Fusion that works...
>>
>> It does have app versions. Some examples:
>>
>> <http://roaringapps.com/app/1password>
>> <http://roaringapps.com/app/microsoft-office-2011>
>> <http://roaringapps.com/app/vmware-fusion-502-503>
>
> Thanks.  I hadn't drilled down by app name.
>
> To date a lot of the 10.11 status for my key apps are still "blue"

Yeah.

>>> Further, it's still showing blue for a lot of apps under 10.11 ...
>>> (unknown).
>>
>> It's crowd sourced, so if you have details you should submit them. And
>> others will be contributing even if you don't.
>
> I will once I install 10.11 ... OTOH I don't want to install it until 
> most of my apps are shown to work well.  I can wait for MS Office "2016" 
> (sometime this fall) if need be.  I can also install it on my SO's MBA 
> in the meantime and test many of the apps...
>
> (DL'd it yesterday at work and made a USB install 'disk' for all the Macs).

I'm in no hurry to upgrade here either - especially on my closet Mac
mini server, where I run tons of services. And likewise, our MacBook Pro
will probably see it first.

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#32346

On 10/2/15 5:47 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> I can wait for MS Office "2016"
> (sometime this fall) if need be.  I can also install it on my SO's MBA
> in the meantime and test many of the apps...

Have you looked at Libreoffice or one of the other free suites? 
Possibly it can't meet your needs but I have read it adheres to national 
standards to a greater extent than Office.  Of course, you can't always 
believe what you read!

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#32347

On 2015-10-03 08:49, Robert Peirce wrote:
> On 10/2/15 5:47 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> I can wait for MS Office "2016"
>> (sometime this fall) if need be.  I can also install it on my SO's MBA
>> in the meantime and test many of the apps...
>
> Have you looked at Libreoffice or one of the other free suites? Possibly
> it can't meet your needs but I have read it adheres to national
> standards to a greater extent than Office.  Of course, you can't always
> believe what you read!

LibreOffice is fine.  As is the Apple suite.

OTOH I have to exchange files with clients, suppliers and others (not to 
mention in-office) and I've found over the years that attempting to use 
LibreOffice or Apple's office suite (Pages, Numbers) leads to formatting 
issues, loss of time screwing with "exporting" from the rebel formats to 
MS Office formats (esp. with the inevitable last minute changes and 
re-issues) that it is not worth my time to use them.

They're all fine apps.  They just don't work in the real business world 
where the de-facto standard is MS Office.  Pity.

I tested Excel and Word (Office for Mac 2008) on 10.11 (SO's MBA) and 
both seem to work fine.

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#32348

On 2015-10-03 08:49, Robert Peirce wrote:
> On 10/2/15 5:47 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> I can wait for MS Office "2016"
>> (sometime this fall) if need be.  I can also install it on my SO's MBA
>> in the meantime and test many of the apps...
>
> Have you looked at Libreoffice or one of the other free suites? Possibly
> it can't meet your needs but I have read it adheres to national
> standards to a greater extent than Office.

Not sure what you mean by "national standards" but there is this 
nonsense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Open_XML which I defy you 
to read with anything approaching genuine interest from start to end.

Some countries, esp. in Europe, have mandated that government offices 
use open OS and apps (Linux/LibreOffice).  So they've picked that (using 
the format above).

In practice, if I send files in MS Office formats I'm pretty sure my 
correspondent can read them.

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