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| Started by | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| First post | 2015-08-21 18:05 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-08-23 12:57 -0700 |
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Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 18:05 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-21 16:36 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-23 18:40 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-24 12:04 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-08-28 11:56 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 14:07 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-22 10:12 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-22 08:48 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-22 22:10 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-23 00:42 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-23 01:42 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-23 02:11 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-23 22:34 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-24 01:04 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-23 13:09 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-22 20:20 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-23 01:02 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-23 09:29 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-23 14:51 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-24 12:02 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-24 16:17 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-24 17:57 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-25 01:07 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 11:52 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-25 09:05 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 12:15 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-25 01:08 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-24 21:55 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 11:57 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-25 09:20 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-25 13:50 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 14:23 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:46 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-26 16:06 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 19:13 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-26 16:04 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 19:11 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-27 00:53 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 07:53 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-27 18:15 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:17 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 10:08 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 14:03 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 14:08 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 14:28 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:42 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-26 16:09 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 19:20 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-27 18:17 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 14:06 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 14:36 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 22:01 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 22:31 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-29 07:46 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 11:53 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-25 19:31 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-08-25 18:29 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-25 18:58 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:39 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-26 16:12 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 20:19 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-25 13:59 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 11:58 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-25 19:30 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:47 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:37 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 19:10 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-27 14:10 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-27 01:00 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-27 08:36 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-28 23:19 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-28 17:52 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 22:02 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-25 21:28 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 19:09 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-25 13:57 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 11:57 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-25 21:28 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 19:09 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-27 14:15 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-27 18:12 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-27 17:32 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-28 00:23 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-27 20:25 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-28 00:38 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 14:02 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-28 12:36 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 22:00 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-28 19:18 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-28 08:36 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-27 17:30 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-23 18:31 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-23 13:14 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 17:29 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-23 13:12 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-24 12:07 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-24 11:04 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-24 17:59 -0400
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-22 08:47 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-23 18:38 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-23 13:06 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-24 23:15 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-24 16:54 -0700
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2015-08-23 14:50 +0100
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-23 18:37 +0000
Re: Home Movies on Apple TV scottishwildcat@gmail.com - 2015-08-23 12:57 -0700
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 18:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d49286Flr4lU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #31300 |
On 2015-08-27, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <CcCdnSFpC9OE2kPInZ2dnUU7-TWdnZ2d@giganews.com> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >> That meant shorter, actually. Remedial math is maybe in your future. > > Oh, I know what you meant. I was pointing out you were WRONG. > > It will take most anyone far more than 30 seconds to go find a DVD, open > the case, put the DVD in, switch inputs, jump through the menus, sit > through the adverts and forced-previews and FBI warnings and Interpol > warnings and actually start watching a movie than 30 seconds. > > Several minutes in many cases. > ><http://img.labnol.org/di/pirated-DVD-movie.png> > > One of the first DVDs I ripped was about 15 years ago and was Dumbo, > which was my eldest kid's favorite movie. In order to start watching the > movie he had to sit through *SEVENTEEN* minutes of shit. This made him > very angry. "DUMBO! WANT DUMBO!" all of that 'content' was marked as > unskippable and included many previews for other Disney DTV releases as > well as three separate FBI warnings. Alan is just arguing for the sake of argument at this point. Boring. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 17:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mP2dnRBR-aZFHELInZ2dnUU7-amdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #31305 |
On 2015-08-27 14:12, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2015-08-27, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> In message <CcCdnSFpC9OE2kPInZ2dnUU7-TWdnZ2d@giganews.com> >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> >>> That meant shorter, actually. Remedial math is maybe in your future. >> >> Oh, I know what you meant. I was pointing out you were WRONG. >> >> It will take most anyone far more than 30 seconds to go find a DVD, open >> the case, put the DVD in, switch inputs, jump through the menus, sit >> through the adverts and forced-previews and FBI warnings and Interpol >> warnings and actually start watching a movie than 30 seconds. >> >> Several minutes in many cases. >> >> <http://img.labnol.org/di/pirated-DVD-movie.png> >> >> One of the first DVDs I ripped was about 15 years ago and was Dumbo, >> which was my eldest kid's favorite movie. In order to start watching the >> movie he had to sit through *SEVENTEEN* minutes of shit. This made him >> very angry. "DUMBO! WANT DUMBO!" all of that 'content' was marked as >> unskippable and included many previews for other Disney DTV releases as >> well as three separate FBI warnings. > > Alan is just arguing for the sake of argument at this point. Boring. Once you realized the fallacy over time (the time you spent getting your collection in to iTunes in order to save time later) you find it boring. Amusing.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 00:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d49nvrFr0laU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #31310 |
On 2015-08-27, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2015-08-27 14:12, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2015-08-27, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >>> In message <CcCdnSFpC9OE2kPInZ2dnUU7-TWdnZ2d@giganews.com> >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> That meant shorter, actually. Remedial math is maybe in your future. >>> >>> Oh, I know what you meant. I was pointing out you were WRONG. >>> >>> It will take most anyone far more than 30 seconds to go find a DVD, open >>> the case, put the DVD in, switch inputs, jump through the menus, sit >>> through the adverts and forced-previews and FBI warnings and Interpol >>> warnings and actually start watching a movie than 30 seconds. >>> >>> Several minutes in many cases. >>> >>> <http://img.labnol.org/di/pirated-DVD-movie.png> >>> >>> One of the first DVDs I ripped was about 15 years ago and was Dumbo, >>> which was my eldest kid's favorite movie. In order to start watching the >>> movie he had to sit through *SEVENTEEN* minutes of shit. This made him >>> very angry. "DUMBO! WANT DUMBO!" all of that 'content' was marked as >>> unskippable and included many previews for other Disney DTV releases as >>> well as three separate FBI warnings. >> >> Alan is just arguing for the sake of argument at this point. Boring. > > Once you realized the fallacy over time (the time you spent getting your > collection in to iTunes in order to save time later) you find it boring. > Amusing. You're being extremely silly. Some of my movies were purchased through iTunes on the Apple TV in a matter of seconds. Next? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 20:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <OoednfsJ8eYXN0LInZ2dnUU7-UGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #31311 |
On 2015-08-27 20:23, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2015-08-27, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2015-08-27 14:12, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> On 2015-08-27, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >>>> In message <CcCdnSFpC9OE2kPInZ2dnUU7-TWdnZ2d@giganews.com> >>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That meant shorter, actually. Remedial math is maybe in your future. >>>> >>>> Oh, I know what you meant. I was pointing out you were WRONG. >>>> >>>> It will take most anyone far more than 30 seconds to go find a DVD, open >>>> the case, put the DVD in, switch inputs, jump through the menus, sit >>>> through the adverts and forced-previews and FBI warnings and Interpol >>>> warnings and actually start watching a movie than 30 seconds. >>>> >>>> Several minutes in many cases. >>>> >>>> <http://img.labnol.org/di/pirated-DVD-movie.png> >>>> >>>> One of the first DVDs I ripped was about 15 years ago and was Dumbo, >>>> which was my eldest kid's favorite movie. In order to start watching the >>>> movie he had to sit through *SEVENTEEN* minutes of shit. This made him >>>> very angry. "DUMBO! WANT DUMBO!" all of that 'content' was marked as >>>> unskippable and included many previews for other Disney DTV releases as >>>> well as three separate FBI warnings. >>> >>> Alan is just arguing for the sake of argument at this point. Boring. >> >> Once you realized the fallacy over time (the time you spent getting your >> collection in to iTunes in order to save time later) you find it boring. >> Amusing. > > You're being extremely silly. Some of my movies were purchased through > iTunes on the Apple TV in a matter of seconds. Next? 1 - some = ?
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 00:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d49orrFr0laU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #31312 |
On 2015-08-28, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2015-08-27 20:23, Jolly Roger wrote: >> >> You're being extremely silly. Some of my movies were purchased through >> iTunes on the Apple TV in a matter of seconds. Next? > > 1 - some = ? Sorry, Alan. No matter how many silly little nitpicks you make, the fact remains using physical DVDs to watch movies is far more inconvenient, cumbersome, and slow than playing digital media through a media server like iTunes. Arguing about this just makes you look rather foolish to the rest of us. Truly, I'm bored. Have fun with your "last word". -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 14:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ft-dndykfIy7P33InZ2dnUU7-VOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #31313 |
On 2015-08-27 20:38, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2015-08-28, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2015-08-27 20:23, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> >>> You're being extremely silly. Some of my movies were purchased through >>> iTunes on the Apple TV in a matter of seconds. Next? >> >> 1 - some = ? > > Sorry, Alan. No matter how many silly little nitpicks you make, the fact > remains using physical DVDs to watch movies is far more inconvenient, If the movie is on my bookshelf downstairs then it is a lot more convenient (and cheap) to throw it into the DVD player than to load it into iTunes in the first place. > cumbersome, and slow than playing digital media through a media server > like iTunes. Arguing about this just makes you look rather foolish to > the rest of us. > > Truly, I'm bored. Have fun with your "last word". Why not. Again, you're ignoring the effort to import media into iTunes. Even paying for a movie via iTunes requires a download (and consequent time to wait - and then of course you'll want to back that up too...
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| From | gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 12:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2015082812361039306-xxx@yyyzzz> |
| In reply to | #31336 |
On 2015-08-28 18:02:14 +0000, Alan Browne said: > On 2015-08-27 20:38, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2015-08-28, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2015-08-27 20:23, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> >>>> You're being extremely silly. Some of my movies were purchased through >>>> iTunes on the Apple TV in a matter of seconds. Next? >>> >>> 1 - some = ? >> >> Sorry, Alan. No matter how many silly little nitpicks you make, the fact >> remains using physical DVDs to watch movies is far more inconvenient, > > If the movie is on my bookshelf downstairs then it is a lot more > convenient (and cheap) to throw it into the DVD player than to load it > into iTunes in the first place. Similarly if you had no hands it might be difficult without additional equipment. Or how 'bout if you had no electricity except that generated by a bicycle--also pretty difficult, right?. How about if your vision was failing and the doctor told you that at the very best you only had enough eye-sight to watch 5 more movies. That would make the process pretty tricky too! Oh--how about if your dvd player was at your brother's house, the DVD you wanted to play was at your ex-wife's and your TV was in storage across town. Wow that would present some real problems. Hey--what if the tv was built into the back of a moving car, you're on a motorcycle and your DVD player was wireless and powered, but was operating in a helicopter moving at a slight angle to that car. So maybe you could watch part of the movie--while also carefully navigating traffic or your cycle--but sooner or later that helicopter was going to loose it's connection. Wow, that's a real DRAMA!
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 22:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <PY-dnZ_pFO-mj3zInZ2dnUU7-cWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #31353 |
On 2015-08-28 15:36, gtr wrote: > On 2015-08-28 18:02:14 +0000, Alan Browne said: > >> On 2015-08-27 20:38, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> On 2015-08-28, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> On 2015-08-27 20:23, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You're being extremely silly. Some of my movies were purchased through >>>>> iTunes on the Apple TV in a matter of seconds. Next? >>>> >>>> 1 - some = ? >>> >>> Sorry, Alan. No matter how many silly little nitpicks you make, the fact >>> remains using physical DVDs to watch movies is far more inconvenient, >> >> If the movie is on my bookshelf downstairs then it is a lot more >> convenient (and cheap) to throw it into the DVD player than to load it >> into iTunes in the first place. > > Similarly if you had no hands it might be difficult without additional > equipment. Of course. The voice of rationality shows up.
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| From | gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 19:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2015082819183940146-xxx@yyyzzz> |
| In reply to | #31372 |
On 2015-08-29 02:00:27 +0000, Alan Browne said: > On 2015-08-28 15:36, gtr wrote: >> On 2015-08-28 18:02:14 +0000, Alan Browne said: >> >>> On 2015-08-27 20:38, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> On 2015-08-28, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> On 2015-08-27 20:23, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You're being extremely silly. Some of my movies were purchased through >>>>>> iTunes on the Apple TV in a matter of seconds. Next? >>>>> >>>>> 1 - some = ? >>>> >>>> Sorry, Alan. No matter how many silly little nitpicks you make, the fact >>>> remains using physical DVDs to watch movies is far more inconvenient, >>> >>> If the movie is on my bookshelf downstairs then it is a lot more >>> convenient (and cheap) to throw it into the DVD player than to load it >>> into iTunes in the first place. >> >> Similarly if you had no hands it might be difficult without additional >> equipment. > > Of course. The voice of rationality shows up. I guess in this context that does almost sound rational.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 08:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmu07fi.9e9.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #31310 |
In message <mP2dnRBR-aZFHELInZ2dnUU7-amdnZ2d@giganews.com> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2015-08-27 14:12, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2015-08-27, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >>> In message <CcCdnSFpC9OE2kPInZ2dnUU7-TWdnZ2d@giganews.com> >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> That meant shorter, actually. Remedial math is maybe in your future. >>> >>> Oh, I know what you meant. I was pointing out you were WRONG. >>> >>> It will take most anyone far more than 30 seconds to go find a DVD, open >>> the case, put the DVD in, switch inputs, jump through the menus, sit >>> through the adverts and forced-previews and FBI warnings and Interpol >>> warnings and actually start watching a movie than 30 seconds. >>> >>> Several minutes in many cases. >>> >>> <http://img.labnol.org/di/pirated-DVD-movie.png> >>> >>> One of the first DVDs I ripped was about 15 years ago and was Dumbo, >>> which was my eldest kid's favorite movie. In order to start watching the >>> movie he had to sit through *SEVENTEEN* minutes of shit. This made him >>> very angry. "DUMBO! WANT DUMBO!" all of that 'content' was marked as >>> unskippable and included many previews for other Disney DTV releases as >>> well as three separate FBI warnings. >> >> Alan is just arguing for the sake of argument at this point. Boring. > Once you realized the fallacy over time (the time you spent getting your > collection in to iTunes in order to save time later) you find it boring. Fist of all, you can rip the movies whenever you want, and once you insert the disc, it's unattended. Come back in 15 minutes and put in another disc. Repeat every 15 minutes, or whenever. Second, ripping DVDs is far faster than watching them, so in the course of a 2 hour movie, without paying much attention at all and with very little effort, I can rip 6 DVDs. Third, I can rip DVDs while I am doing something else, reading mail, browsing the web, writing code, or whatever, so the time it takes is, effectively, near zero. Drop a stack or random DVDs off at the computer and go through them, eventually. I ripped all my DVDs ages ago and haven't bought any since. I bought two Blue Rays, which I ripped. Everything else I own is purely digital. -- The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-08-27 17:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mP2dnRFR-ab-HELInZ2dnUU7-amdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #31300 |
On 2015-08-27 10:15, Lewis wrote: > In message <CcCdnSFpC9OE2kPInZ2dnUU7-TWdnZ2d@giganews.com> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2015-08-25 17:28, Lewis wrote: >>> In message <zs2dnSEIQNQYDUHInZ2dnUU7-SWdnZ2d@giganews.com> >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> On 2015-08-25 09:57, Lewis wrote: >>>>> In message <gemdnfXwCP6B3UbInZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@giganews.com> >>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>>> On 2015-08-23 10:51, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>>> On 2015-08-23, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2015-08-22 21:02, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-23, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-22 11:48, gtr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is a fine work-around, but it doesn't allow storage and >>>>>>>>>>> organization in a convenient location for all your video where you >>>>>>>>>>> can poke around and watch what you want from the comfort of your >>>>>>>>>>> livingroom >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The hell it doesn't. Finder locates any video very quickly and >>>>>>>>>> plays it quicker. Nothing is more convenient than Finder. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Huh? It's far simpler and faster to use a remote control on my TV >>>>>>>>> with an Apple TV connected (four button presses: Computers > My >>>>>>>>> Computer >>>>>>>>>> Movies > Play) than it would be to log into a computer, open a >>>>>>>>>> folder >>>>>>>>> (possibly navigating around for a bit), double-click a movie, and >>>>>>>>> play it through AirPlay. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your choice if you want to deal with iTunes - which I avoid like the >>>>>>>> plague. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's nothing to "deal with". I encode one of my DVDs with Handbrake, >>>>>>> drag the resulting movie file into iTunes, and like magic it's >>>>>>> automatically available everywhere I need (iOS devices, Macs, Apple >>>>>>> TVs). It is simple and effective. >>>>> >>>>>> I just plop DVD's into the DVD player. (Ironic given your television >>>>>> reply below). >>>>> >>>>> I haven't used a DVD player connected to a display to watch a movie (or >>>>> anything) in 10 years or so. >>>>> >>>>>>> You have to log into a computer, find a file, open it, stream it. By >>>>>>> the time you've done all that, my movie is playing. >>>>> >>>>>> Wow. You win that race by about 30 seconds. >>>>> >>>>> 30 seconds is a pretty annoying delay. >>> >>>> I was being generous on the order of 20+ seconds. >>> >>> Yes, you were. It is almost certainly MUCH longer than that. > >> That meant shorter, actually. Remedial math is maybe in your future. > > Oh, I know what you meant. I was pointing out you were WRONG. And tragically, ironically way off track. You're consistent, I'll say that. The case referred to was playing a file on my computer using iTunes or not. The DVD discussion is a side track. Of course you're not mentioning how the file got onto your computer in the first place. That was in magic 0 time? Last time I handbraked a DVD it certainly did not happen any quicker than loading a DVD into the player. I appreciate that it's more or less a hands off background process, but it's not 0 effort at all. (Indeed I can't even Handbrake real DVD's right now, I have to to re-install specific s/w to get around copyright - so that means I haven't done it since my prior iMac ... over 2 years ago). > It will take most anyone far more than 30 seconds to go find a DVD, open > the case, put the DVD in, switch inputs, jump through the menus, sit > through the adverts and forced-previews and FBI warnings and Interpol > warnings and actually start watching a movie than 30 seconds. > > Several minutes in many cases. Other than badly mastered disks, not at all. Except the "warnings" you can skip everything else. > > <http://img.labnol.org/di/pirated-DVD-movie.png> > > One of the first DVDs I ripped was about 15 years ago and was Dumbo, > which was my eldest kid's favorite movie. In order to start watching the > movie he had to sit through *SEVENTEEN* minutes of shit. This made him > very angry. "DUMBO! WANT DUMBO!" all of that 'content' was marked as > unskippable and included many previews for other Disney DTV releases as > well as three separate FBI warnings. Disks were badly mastered in a lot of cases. Some old ones force you to the menu to deselect closed captions. Big deal. Recent (last 10 years or more) disks allow you to jump over everything other than the warning. Not killing me at all. Watch DVD's less and streamed content more in any case. I'm not going to rip DVD's to a disk for the convenience of watching it 4 years from now and saving a minute then by wasting time now.
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| From | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 18:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-OzlVdK1n17mf@localhost> |
| In reply to | #31187 |
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 01:02:44 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2015-08-23, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > > On 2015-08-22 11:48, gtr wrote: > >> > >> This is a fine work-around, but it doesn't allow storage and > >> organization in a convenient location for all your video where you can > >> poke around and watch what you want from the comfort of your livingroom > > > > The hell it doesn't. Finder locates any video very quickly and plays it > > quicker. Nothing is more convenient than Finder. > > Huh? It's far simpler and faster to use a remote control on my TV with > an Apple TV connected (four button presses: Computers > My Computer Of course. I'm the OP and my problem was getting certain videos into iTunes in the first place. I forgot to mention that in Help I had read that the way to get problem videos into iTunes is to first import into iPhoto and then from there export to iTunes. The 1020p video imported into iPhoto and played nicely from there, but there was no obvious way to get it into iTunes. Copy and paste didn't work, nor did drag and drop, and there was nothing useful in File > Export. Elsewhere in iTunes help I have, since making the original post, found instructions to open the file in QuickTime Player and then go to File > Export > iTunes. That worked. So that particular problem is solved. Meanwhile, it's clear that all the help info hasn't been updated to the latest thing. <snip> -- John Varela
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| From | gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 13:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2015082313142265905-xxx@yyyzzz> |
| In reply to | #31194 |
On 2015-08-23 18:31:48 +0000, John Varela said: > On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 01:02:44 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> > wrote: > >> On 2015-08-23, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2015-08-22 11:48, gtr wrote: >>>> >>>> This is a fine work-around, but it doesn't allow storage and >>>> organization in a convenient location for all your video where you can >>>> poke around and watch what you want from the comfort of your livingroom >>> >>> The hell it doesn't. Finder locates any video very quickly and plays it >>> quicker. Nothing is more convenient than Finder. >> >> Huh? It's far simpler and faster to use a remote control on my TV with >> an Apple TV connected (four button presses: Computers > My Computer > > Of course. I'm the OP and my problem was getting certain videos into > iTunes in the first place. > > I forgot to mention that in Help I had read that the way to get > problem videos into iTunes is to first import into iPhoto and then > from there export to iTunes. The 1020p video imported into iPhoto > and played nicely from there, but there was no obvious way to get it > into iTunes. Copy and paste didn't work, nor did drag and drop, and > there was nothing useful in File > Export. > > Elsewhere in iTunes help I have, since making the original post, > found instructions to open the file in QuickTime Player and then go > to File > Export > iTunes. That worked. > > So that particular problem is solved. Meanwhile, it's clear that all > the help info hasn't been updated to the latest thing. > > <snip> Please give VideoDrive 2 a chance. I could be wrong, but I think it's exactly what you're looking for.
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 17:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <55da3b49$0$1885$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #31194 |
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-OzlVdK1n17mf@localhost>, "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > So that particular problem is solved. Meanwhile, it's clear that all > the help info hasn't been updated to the latest thing. I use Kodi (was XBMC); I've been using it for years. It plays everything. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 13:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <201508231312504135-xxx@yyyzzz> |
| In reply to | #31185 |
On 2015-08-23 00:20:43 +0000, Alan Browne said: >> This is a fine work-around, but it doesn't allow storage and >> organization in a convenient location for all your video where you can >> poke around and watch what you want from the comfort of your livingroom > > The hell it doesn't. Finder locates any video very quickly and plays > it quicker. I can't access Finder when I'm in the living room fiddling with the ATV. > Nothing is more convenient than Finder. Using Spotlight or CMD-F I can > find 90% of videos in less than 1 s. The rest are hard because they > are older files with bad names and no keywords tagged to them. You seem to be on your computer rather than in the livingroom with your ATV. > iTunes is more and more of a sickening spaghetti morass of shit than it > ever was - and it was a sickening spaghetti morass of shit 5 years ago. It's use for commercial ends is a nuisance, but in terms of functionality, I think it's great. But it's more or less like a database, fill it with disorganisation and bad tags and such, and that's what you'll get out of fit. >> any time you like. iTunes is great for that, but you do have to get all >> the video in question into iTunes. > > That's half the battle of stupid, useless time wasting idiocy that > Apple foist upon us ... > >> After a lot of time messing with all >> that I found VideoDrive 2 really excellent for that. > > I'll look into it.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 12:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <gemdnffwCP7U3EbInZ2dnUU7-a-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #31201 |
On 2015-08-23 16:12, gtr wrote: > On 2015-08-23 00:20:43 +0000, Alan Browne said: > >>> This is a fine work-around, but it doesn't allow storage and >>> organization in a convenient location for all your video where you can >>> poke around and watch what you want from the comfort of your livingroom >> >> The hell it doesn't. Finder locates any video very quickly and plays >> it quicker. > > I can't access Finder when I'm in the living room fiddling with the ATV. If you were using AirPlay and had a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, you certainly could. > >> Nothing is more convenient than Finder. Using Spotlight or CMD-F I >> can find 90% of videos in less than 1 s. The rest are hard because >> they are older files with bad names and no keywords tagged to them. > > You seem to be on your computer rather than in the livingroom with your > ATV. Both! The computer is upstairs in my office but using AirPlay I see the screen via the ATV. > >> iTunes is more and more of a sickening spaghetti morass of shit than >> it ever was - and it was a sickening spaghetti morass of shit 5 years >> ago. > > It's use for commercial ends is a nuisance, but in terms of > functionality, I think it's great. But it's more or less like a > database, fill it with disorganisation and bad tags and such, and that's > what you'll get out of fit. It's ability as a database are not bad (but I think it's fucked up a Mozart collection - need to check that) - what I despise is the horrible UI that seems to get worse with each iteration.
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| From | gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 11:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2015082411045533277-xxx@yyyzzz> |
| In reply to | #31227 |
On 2015-08-24 16:07:37 +0000, Alan Browne said: > On 2015-08-23 16:12, gtr wrote: >> On 2015-08-23 00:20:43 +0000, Alan Browne said: >> >>>> This is a fine work-around, but it doesn't allow storage and >>>> organization in a convenient location for all your video where you can >>>> poke around and watch what you want from the comfort of your livingroom >>> >>> The hell it doesn't. Finder locates any video very quickly and plays >>> it quicker. >> >> I can't access Finder when I'm in the living room fiddling with the ATV. > > If you were using AirPlay and had a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, you > certainly could. I don't want to, I have an easier solution that fiddling with my computer on the television set. It's clear than many people have many solutions to many problems. Some of them overlap with the OP, most of them do not. He is using iTunes, he has some import issues. This is the perfect opportunity for csma to explain to him why he shouldn't be having THAT set of issues, he should concern himself with THIS set of issues instead. In other words he needs a different problem, and many of us have great replacements which we happened to have perfect solutions for!
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 17:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <0_OdndBQ3dleDkbInZ2dnUU7-RGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #31229 |
On 2015-08-24 14:04, gtr wrote: > On 2015-08-24 16:07:37 +0000, Alan Browne said: > >> On 2015-08-23 16:12, gtr wrote: >>> On 2015-08-23 00:20:43 +0000, Alan Browne said: >>> >>>>> This is a fine work-around, but it doesn't allow storage and >>>>> organization in a convenient location for all your video where you can >>>>> poke around and watch what you want from the comfort of your >>>>> livingroom >>>> >>>> The hell it doesn't. Finder locates any video very quickly and plays >>>> it quicker. >>> >>> I can't access Finder when I'm in the living room fiddling with the ATV. >> >> If you were using AirPlay and had a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, you >> certainly could. > > I don't want to, I have an easier solution that fiddling with my > computer on the television set. > > It's clear than many people have many solutions to many problems. Some > of them overlap with the OP, most of them do not. He is using iTunes, > he has some import issues. This is the perfect opportunity for csma to > explain to him why he shouldn't be having THAT set of issues, he should > concern himself with THIS set of issues instead. In other words he > needs a different problem, and many of us have great replacements which > we happened to have perfect solutions for! I never claimed my solution was the best solution. It is my best solution.
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| From | gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2015-08-22 08:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2015082208470649071-xxx@yyyzzz> |
| In reply to | #31171 |
On 2015-08-21 18:05:40 +0000, John Varela said: > I have a new Apple TV; one of the reasons I bought it was so I could > play HD home movies stored on my iMac on the big new HD TV set. > > As I understand it, to play a home movie via Apple TV, the movie > must be in the iTunes library. HD movie clips in .mov format > straight from the camera import into iTunes properly and the only > one I've tested played just fine via Apple TV. I use VideoDrive to import video of any kind into my ATV. http://aroonasoftware.com/VideoDrive/
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| From | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 18:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-u2j8QRvRqfEd@localhost> |
| In reply to | #31180 |
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:47:06 UTC, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote: > On 2015-08-21 18:05:40 +0000, John Varela said: > > > I have a new Apple TV; one of the reasons I bought it was so I could > > play HD home movies stored on my iMac on the big new HD TV set. > > > > As I understand it, to play a home movie via Apple TV, the movie > > must be in the iTunes library. HD movie clips in .mov format > > straight from the camera import into iTunes properly and the only > > one I've tested played just fine via Apple TV. > > I use VideoDrive to import video of any kind into my ATV. > > http://aroonasoftware.com/VideoDrive/ I didn't think the Apple TV has storage. -- John Varela
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