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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: did this group die? |
| Date | 2024-11-03 09:55 -0800 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vg8ded$7fuc$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <vg61vb$3ume3$2@dont-email.me> <vg69k7$3vvh5$2@dont-email.me> <vg7t80$c85o$1@dont-email.me> <vg8402$1jlr$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vg8cql$ds8a$1@solani.org> |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 2024-11-03 09:44, Nick Cine wrote: > On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 15:14:10 -0000 (UTC), Andrews wrote: > >> Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 3 Nov 2024 08:18:59 -0500 : >> >>> As a former long-time Android phone and tablet user and defender I can >>> postulate too. Android feature roll-outs and OS versions happened >>> slowly, if at all, and were very uneven across device brands. I never >>> got more than one OS version update on the many HTC, Moto and Samsung >>> devices I owned. I had to upgrade to get the latest, and even then new >>> phones often did not have the latest OS installed.] >> >> FACTS. Not propaganda please. >> >> You are wrong. More to the point, your data is old. It's no longer valid. >> You're five to ten years behind in all your data - so you're just wrong. >> >> If you used Android only two or three years ago, you won't recognize >> Android of today because that's how much has changed in a short time. >> >> a. The iPhone has far more bugs than Android now (and far more exploits!). >> b. The iPhone has far shorter operating system support than Android now. >> c. With respect to fragmentation, even that is very old data. >> >> More Samsung devices alone are sold than iPhones are, where the >> "fragmentation" you decry doesn't exist if you stick with Pixels & >> Samsungs. >> >> To complain that other brands provide valuable choices isn't really a fair >> complaint because you don't get ANY of those choices with Apple. >> >> And Apple's puny five years of promised supprot pales in comparison to the >> Samsung and Pixel promise of seven years of full hotfix support. >> >> Remember, of all common consumer operating systems, Apple is the only one >> with support so bad they only fully support a single release at a time. >> >> Those are facts. Modern facts. Not facts from ten years ago. >> Those are facts from today. >> >> You're welcome to form a strong opinion based on old data, but just say >> that your data doesn't take into account the reality of today's devices. >> >>> I have had to replace a battery on my iPhone 14. That was because I >>> tried wireless charging in the car that overheated the phone. The >>> replacement was easy. I took it to the local Apple Store and they had it >>> back to me in 2 hours. >> >> That's absurd. My Android debuted around the time of the iPhone 12, and >> it's still going strong. But it has a modern-sized battery. >> >> No iPhone in the world has a batter as big as the one in my free phone. >> That's the main reason iPhone batteries need to be replaced more often. >> >> Last we checked Apple replaces almost fifteen million batteries in the USA >> alone per year. Think about that. It's huge. Apple batteries are crap. >> >> Not a single iPhone battery is even close in capacity to that of my free >> Android phone (which only retailed for about two hundred dollars MSRP). >> >>> That was 6 months ago and battery life is still >>> 100%. The cost? $0. AppleCare+ took care of it. >> >> Remember I said that the Apple trolls are ignorant? Remember? >> Guess what? How did you get that AppleCare+ without paying for it? >> >>> No questions asked. >> >> I have a question for you. >> >> Since almost nobody on Android pays for any extra warranty, why do most >> Apple iPhone owners pay for AppleCare+ when it's never needed? >> >> Think about that. >> >> Apple owners are so terrified of the horrendous repair costs, that they'll >> pay any amount of subscription fees just to not have to worry about them. >> >>> have owned iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 6s era. That's the only >>> battery replaced spanning 8 years and 6s, SE and 14 Pro versions. >> >> The Apple iPads actually have decently sized batteries as it's only the >> iPhone that uses comically cheap chintzy batteries in terms of capacity. >> >> Every time you replace a battery (and millions are replaced every year!), >> Apple is laughing at you AppleCare+ owners all the way to the bank. >> >>> I'll never go back. There is no Android Store 15 minutes away. My phone >>> and tablet get annual OS updates on the day they are released, and >>> regular feature and security updates too that. >> >> The one thing you're right about is that there is no such thing as an >> "Android Store", which nobody on Android needs - but iPhone owners do. >> >> I have plenty of Apple devices and when I take them to the Genius Bar, the >> "Genius" at the Apple Store asks me what a Decibel is when I tell him that >> I teste the iPhone side-by-side with my free Samsung & the Wi-Fi stinks. >> >> These "Genius" Bar employees don't know how things work in the real world >> as you can't test Wi-Fi without knowing what a Decibel means. >> >> All the Genius Bar employees do is test the phone for basic stuff (like >> water penetration) and recommend a new iPhone if it fails their tests. >> >> Remember, Apple lost the lawsuits for exactly that reason. >> >> Even Apple didn't tell its Genius Bar employees that they purposefully >> lowered the life of the iPhone (which they paid a criminal fine for!). >> >> Still... the free Apple Store Genius Bar (and free classes) are a nice >> touch because Apple knows owners are petrified by the complexity of tech. > > But how much does that Apple Care added warranty cost anyways? Do you notice the number of assertions that Andrew/Arlen makes that he declares are "facts"? "almost nobody on Android pays for any extra warranty" Etc. :-)
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Re: did this group die? Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-11-01 16:42 +0000
Re: did this group die? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2024-11-02 16:27 -0400
Re: did this group die? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2024-11-02 15:37 -0700
Re: did this group die? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-11-02 22:20 -0400
Re: did this group die? *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> - 2024-11-03 02:26 +0000
Re: did this group die? Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-11-03 03:36 +0000
Re: did this group die? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2024-11-03 08:18 -0500
Re: did this group die? Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-11-03 15:14 +0000
Re: did this group die? Nick Cine <nickcine@is.invalid> - 2024-11-03 10:44 -0700
Re: did this group die? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-03 09:55 -0800
Re: did this group die? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2024-11-04 08:42 -0500
Re: did this group die? Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-11-04 16:14 +0000
Re: did this group die? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2024-11-04 13:07 -0500
Re: did this group die? Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-11-04 16:29 +0000
Re: did this group die? rlhamil@smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) - 2024-11-04 17:03 +0000
Re: did this group die? Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-11-04 17:24 +0000
Re: did this group die? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-11-04 15:01 -0500
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