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Re: advice for an acquaintance

From Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: advice for an acquaintance
Date 2011-04-16 10:59 -0500
Message-ID <90tsnlFg6uU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References <150420111634306367%nospam@nospam.invalid> <ioadvo$9im$1@dont-email.me> <90so4rFde2U1@mid.individual.net> <dorayme-1EEBD7.16500516042011@news.albasani.net>

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On 11-04-16 1:50 AM, dorayme wrote:
> In article<90so4rFde2U1@mid.individual.net>,
>   Jeffrey Goldberg<nobody@goldmark.org>  wrote:
>
>> If people use their credit cards at all, then it is almost certain that
>> their credit card information has already been stolen a dozen times over
>> and is already on sale for about 2 USD (cheaper if you buy stolen credit
>> card details in bulk) on the black market.
>
> If you were right, after a dozen steals, someone would surely
> have bought them and used it and who would use credit cards if
> theft was that widespread?

Because it is actually harder to convert stolen credit card info into 
cash (without getting caught) than you might imagine.

This is one of the huge differences between credit card info and banking 
info. Credit card companies are responsible for fraud (after $50) in the 
US, so they really do go make it hard or risky to use. This is why 
credit card details are so cheap on the black market.

With (online) banking, the customer takes the risk instead of the bank. 
So there aren't as many safe guards, and those sorts of details are very 
valuable.

Cheers,

-j


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advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-15 14:47 +0000
  Re: advice for an acquaintance Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-15 10:00 -0500
  Re: advice for an acquaintance Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 08:34 -0700
  Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-15 12:16 -0400
    Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2011-04-15 09:42 -0700
      Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 13:05 -0700
        Re: advice for an acquaintance Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-15 18:30 +0100
          Re: advice for an acquaintance dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2011-04-16 17:42 +0100
        Re: advice for an acquaintance erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2011-04-15 12:38 -0500
          Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-16 13:00 -0400
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 18:45 +0000
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Jim Glidewell <jim_glidewell@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-16 21:15 +0000
        Re: advice for an acquaintance BreadWithSpam@fractious.net - 2011-04-15 15:31 -0400
          Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 16:34 -0700
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-15 21:40 +0000
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-16 00:35 -0500
                Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-16 16:50 +1000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-16 10:59 -0500
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 12:45 +0000
              Re: advice for an acquaintance jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2011-04-17 00:26 +1200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 13:04 +0000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2011-04-17 03:00 +1200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2011-04-16 10:55 -0500
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 20:25 +0000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-17 07:51 +1000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2011-04-18 07:50 +1200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-18 09:41 +1000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 00:35 +0000
        Re: advice for an acquaintance "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2011-04-15 22:07 +0000
          Re: advice for an acquaintance BreadWithSpam@fractious.net - 2011-04-15 19:23 -0400
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-16 00:40 -0500
            Re: advice for an acquaintance "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2011-04-17 02:54 +0000
          Re: advice for an acquaintance pf@porkain'tkosher.oink (Paul Fuchs) - 2011-04-15 22:53 -0700
          Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 10:23 +0000
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 12:45 +0000
              Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2011-04-16 08:40 -0700
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-16 11:10 -0500
                Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2011-04-16 10:21 -0700
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2011-04-16 17:19 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2011-04-16 17:16 -0400
        Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-16 23:00 -0400
          Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-18 12:23 -0700
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-19 13:48 +0200
              Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-19 11:00 -0700
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-19 12:22 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-20 07:59 +0200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 11:33 +0000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-20 14:35 +0200
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-19 21:58 -0400
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-20 08:31 +0200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-20 16:04 +0000
    Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 12:57 -0700
      Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2011-04-15 10:15 -0700
        Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 13:41 -0700
        Re: advice for an acquaintance Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2011-04-15 20:01 -0500
        Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 20:43 +0200
      Re: advice for an acquaintance Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-15 13:59 -0400
    Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-16 10:40 +1000
      Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 01:46 +0000
        Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-16 13:21 +1000
          Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 12:45 +0000
      Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 10:23 +0000
        Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 12:45 +0000
        Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-16 23:19 -0400
          Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-17 14:18 +0000
          Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-17 12:31 -0400
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-17 12:55 -0500
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-18 11:51 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-18 11:38 -0500
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-19 12:18 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-19 22:05 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 11:38 +0000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-20 16:04 +0000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-19 07:30 +1000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-19 12:19 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-20 08:03 +1000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-19 22:02 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-20 08:27 +0200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 11:33 +0000
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-17 23:22 -0400
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-18 10:47 +0200
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 07:23 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-18 13:10 +0000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance BreadWithSpam@fractious.net - 2011-04-18 11:13 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-18 22:22 -0700
                Re: advice for an acquaintance jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2011-04-21 18:42 +1200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2011-04-18 09:37 -0700
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-19 22:10 -0400
    Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 10:15 +0000
  Re: advice for an acquaintance Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2011-04-15 11:36 -0500
  Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 13:08 -0700
  Re: advice for an acquaintance "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2011-04-15 21:45 +0000
    Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 19:18 +0200
      Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-17 18:59 +0000
        Re: advice for an acquaintance "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2011-04-20 20:50 +0000

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