Re: advice for an acquaintance

From	Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: advice for an acquaintance
Date	2011-04-16 00:35 -0500
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On 11-04-15 4:40 PM, Erilar wrote:

> she absolutely refuses to use her credit card on line.

If people use their credit cards at all, then it is almost certain that 
their credit card information has already been stolen a dozen times over 
and is already on sale for about 2 USD (cheaper if you buy stolen credit 
card details in bulk) on the black market.

Hotel reservation and check-in systems (not the online stuff) have 
notoriously bad security, and there have been many breaches in large 
(brick and mortar) retailers. In the old days, credit card info was 
stolen at restaurants where you hand your card to a minimum waged 
stranger. But now it is through break-ins on traditional retailers' 
computer systems. The on-line retailers tend to have much better 
security than traditional retailers.

My over all point is that people worry about threats from the wrong 
places. Your friend seems to be an extreme example of this.

Cheers,

-j

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Jeffrey Goldberg          http://goldmark.org/jeff/
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advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-15 14:47 +0000
  Re: advice for an acquaintance Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-15 10:00 -0500
  Re: advice for an acquaintance Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 08:34 -0700
  Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-15 12:16 -0400
    Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2011-04-15 09:42 -0700
      Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 13:05 -0700
        Re: advice for an acquaintance Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-15 18:30 +0100
          Re: advice for an acquaintance dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2011-04-16 17:42 +0100
        Re: advice for an acquaintance erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2011-04-15 12:38 -0500
          Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-16 13:00 -0400
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 18:45 +0000
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Jim Glidewell <jim_glidewell@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-16 21:15 +0000
        Re: advice for an acquaintance BreadWithSpam@fractious.net - 2011-04-15 15:31 -0400
          Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 16:34 -0700
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-15 21:40 +0000
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-16 00:35 -0500
                Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-16 16:50 +1000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-16 10:59 -0500
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 12:45 +0000
              Re: advice for an acquaintance jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2011-04-17 00:26 +1200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 13:04 +0000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2011-04-17 03:00 +1200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2011-04-16 10:55 -0500
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 20:25 +0000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-17 07:51 +1000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2011-04-18 07:50 +1200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-18 09:41 +1000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 00:35 +0000
        Re: advice for an acquaintance "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2011-04-15 22:07 +0000
          Re: advice for an acquaintance BreadWithSpam@fractious.net - 2011-04-15 19:23 -0400
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-16 00:40 -0500
            Re: advice for an acquaintance "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2011-04-17 02:54 +0000
          Re: advice for an acquaintance pf@porkain'tkosher.oink (Paul Fuchs) - 2011-04-15 22:53 -0700
          Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 10:23 +0000
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 12:45 +0000
              Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2011-04-16 08:40 -0700
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-16 11:10 -0500
                Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2011-04-16 10:21 -0700
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2011-04-16 17:19 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2011-04-16 17:16 -0400
        Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-16 23:00 -0400
          Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-18 12:23 -0700
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-19 13:48 +0200
              Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-19 11:00 -0700
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-19 12:22 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-20 07:59 +0200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 11:33 +0000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-20 14:35 +0200
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-19 21:58 -0400
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-20 08:31 +0200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-20 16:04 +0000
    Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 12:57 -0700
      Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) - 2011-04-15 10:15 -0700
        Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 13:41 -0700
        Re: advice for an acquaintance Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2011-04-15 20:01 -0500
        Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 20:43 +0200
      Re: advice for an acquaintance Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-15 13:59 -0400
    Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-16 10:40 +1000
      Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 01:46 +0000
        Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-16 13:21 +1000
          Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 12:45 +0000
      Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 10:23 +0000
        Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 12:45 +0000
        Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-16 23:19 -0400
          Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-17 14:18 +0000
          Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-17 12:31 -0400
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-17 12:55 -0500
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-18 11:51 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-18 11:38 -0500
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-19 12:18 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-19 22:05 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 11:38 +0000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-20 16:04 +0000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-19 07:30 +1000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2011-04-19 12:19 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-04-20 08:03 +1000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-19 22:02 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-20 08:27 +0200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 11:33 +0000
            Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-17 23:22 -0400
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-18 10:47 +0200
              Re: advice for an acquaintance Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 07:23 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-18 13:10 +0000
                Re: advice for an acquaintance BreadWithSpam@fractious.net - 2011-04-18 11:13 -0400
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-18 22:22 -0700
                Re: advice for an acquaintance jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2011-04-21 18:42 +1200
                Re: advice for an acquaintance John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2011-04-18 09:37 -0700
                Re: advice for an acquaintance Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2011-04-19 22:10 -0400
    Re: advice for an acquaintance Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 10:15 +0000
  Re: advice for an acquaintance Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2011-04-15 11:36 -0500
  Re: advice for an acquaintance nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 13:08 -0700
  Re: advice for an acquaintance "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2011-04-15 21:45 +0000
    Re: advice for an acquaintance Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> - 2011-04-17 19:18 +0200
      Re: advice for an acquaintance Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-17 18:59 +0000
        Re: advice for an acquaintance "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2011-04-20 20:50 +0000

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