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Re: Co I really have to take off the display, the lid?

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On 2020-10-11 9:24 a.m., micky wrote:
> In comp.sys.laptops, on Sun, 11 Oct 2020 08:19:34 -0400, Paul
> <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> micky wrote:
>>> In order to open my laptop and replace the fan, do I really have to take
>>> off the display, the lid?
>>>
>>> It's a Dell Latitude E4300.
>>>
>>> The Dell service manual says to do this, but I find it hard to believe.
>>> It looks like the Palm Rest is easy to slip from under the display. Only
>>> 5mm. are under it and the empty space above the palm rest is 2 or 3 mm.
>>>
>>> I know I can wait and figure it out when the time comes, but I  ike to
>>> plan ahead.   And know how much time to allot.
>>>
>>> Some random guy on the web for some other Dell laptop  also says he had
>>> to remove his display.   OTOH, a video of someone cleaning the fan on
>>> the E4310 shows him taking off every cover on the bottom of it.  I think
>>> some people just like to take everything apart.  ;-)
>>
>> I'm not following what's going on here.
>>
>> https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Dell+Latitude+E4300+CPU+Cooling+Fan+Replacement/116140
> 
> In my opinion, you shoudln't spend any more time on t his than you have.
> My question was meant to address only opeople who alr eady knew the
> asnwer.   Plus, I can read almost as well as you, and my  reading was
> tthat they say you have to remove the display.  In fact I said that
> But sometimes people know easier ways** to do things.
> 
> But if you're curious and have time, this is the service manual.
> 
> http://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_laptop/esuprt_latitude_laptop/latitude-e4300_service%20manual_en-us.pdf
> 
> **I once had surgery in December, and it snowed and tthe snow was more
> than half-way up my car's wheels, and I wasn't supposed to go out for
> several weeks until my shoulder healed.  One of my wheels didn't have
> its wheel cover on (I don't know what happens now that so many cars
> have no wheel covers or hubcaps) and in the spring I took my brother to
> Newark airport.  When I got back to the car, that tire was flat, and I
> coudln't get the lug nuts off.
> 
> Finally, by standing on, jumping up and down on, the lugwrench, I got it
> off but broke 3 of the 5 studs.  Or maybe 4.   I lived in Brooklyn
> What a responsible adult would do is find a garage in Newark to tow my
> car in (on Sunday) and fix it on Monday, and I would talke public
> transportation to Manhattan, and the subway to Brooklyn, then come back
> the same way when the car was fixed.
> 
> OR, I could drive home.
> 
> When I went straight or turned left, the car was okay, but when I turned
> right the wheel went clunk, clunk, clunk.
> 
> If I still had 2 good studs when I left hte airport, at some point I
> broke one.   Then I got to the Holland Tunnel.  If you break down there
> they charge you a lot to take you out.   They have a tow truck that sits
> there 24/7 waiting for people to break down, so they have to pay for the
> tow truck with the fees they charge, plus they're annoyed, so they
> charge more.
> 
> But I decided I'd drive through the Holland Tunnel.   That went okay,
> and I turned east on Walker St.   NYC downtown is very quiet on Sunday
> evening.  Just before I got to Broadway, the last stud broke and the
> wheel fell off the car.   Phone call, I'll finish later.
> 
>> They refer to a panel (or plate) underneath the keyboard.
>> And a couple of screws in the back of that panel, fasten
>> to the display somehow. Hinges ? I don't know. The description
>> leaves a lot to be desired.
>>
>> Yes, it does look like the whole thing practically
>> comes apart from the top down. Starting with the
>> keyboard tub, and working your way down.
>>
>> They don't mention using a spudger to remove the bezel
>> along the top of the keyboard area. I guess for the
>> people who have done a thousand of these, it's no longer
>> a thing to grit your teeth over. Some of them are
>> hard to get out, without damage. That's the sign of a
>> good repair person, is pulling that strip without
>> leaving a mark. You could easily be tempted to use
>> an edged tool, like say a wood chisel, and leave a lot
>> of damage in your wake.
> 
> More likely a steak knife.
> 
> But a couple years ago I bought a set of laptop tools, and they may
> help.
> 
>> I guess you can't do it from the bottom,
>> because you wouldn't be able to reach the fan
>> connector on the top side of the PCB. The screws that
>> hold the fan in, are also on the top side.
> 
> Right.   And the palm rest extends below the keyboard and has to be
> removed to reach the fan.  From the t op.
>>
>> *******
>>
>>  From the comments at the bottom...
>>
>> One Comment
>> Add a comment
>>
>> I would rate this more moderate than easy.   <=== :-) Honesty...
>>
>> Bob Green - 07/30/2019
>>
>>     Paul
> 

Lots of luck.

Rene

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