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Re: Co I really have to take off the display, the lid?

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On 10/11/2020 8:11 AM, Big Al wrote:
> On 10/11/20 11:07 AM, this is what Ken Blake wrote:
>> On 10/11/2020 7:21 AM, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 10/11/20 9:26 AM, this is what micky wrote:
>>>> In comp.sys.laptops, on Sun, 11 Oct 2020 07:23:58 -0400, Bill
>>>> <WhoKnows@newsguy.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> micky wrote:
>>>>>> In order to open my laptop and replace the fan, do I really have to take
>>>>>> off the display, the lid?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a Dell Latitude E4300.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Dell service manual says to do this, but I find it hard to believe.
>>>>>> It looks like the Palm Rest is easy to slip from under the display. Only
>>>>>> 5mm. are under it and the empty space above the palm rest is 2 or 3 mm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know I can wait and figure it out when the time comes, but I  ike to
>>>>>> plan ahead.   And know how much time to allot.
>>>>>
>>>>> You've had a lot of trouble with laptop fans going bad?
>>>>
>>>> It's just this one, but I've dragged it out for months.
>>>>
>>>> But like my mother used to say when she asked a  store to do something,
>>>> It makes jobs for people.  If they didn't have things to do, they
>>>> woudln't get hired.
>>>>
>>>> And if I didn't ask questions, people here coudln't answer them.
>>>>
>>>>> I'd just make
>>>>> sure you have 2 devices (of some sort) and it won't matter how much time
>>>>> it takes.  Also, perform backups. Then, you're invincible!  : )
>>>>
>>>> Yes, unless I can't get the laptop back together again.    The hardest
>>>> part seems to be the display  It has connectors and wires that have to
>>>> be snaked through the right hole.   I still  think it's unnecesary, and
>>>> I'll try to do the job without taking the displlay off, though that
>>>> means taking a big bunch of screws out out of order, compared to the
>>>> order they recommend. .
>>>>
>>>> Even the bottom part has 7 different connectors that have to be
>>>> disconnected and then connected.   That might be easy but maybe not. .
>>>>
>>>> I think tht's only happened once in the last 30 years, and it was not
>>>> electronic.  It was an upside down jig saw one on the left and a
>>>> grindstone on the right.   I toook it apart, fiixed it, but could never
>>>> get it back together again.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some random guy on the web for some other Dell laptop  also says he had
>>>>>> to remove his display.   OTOH, a video of someone cleaning the fan on
>>>>>> the E4310 shows him taking off every cover on the bottom of it.  I think
>>>>>> some people just like to take everything apart.  ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Got a smart phone?  Take photos, plenty of them.  It can sometimes help to reassemble.
>> 
>> 
>> Excellent suggestion, but he doesn't have to use a smart phnoe to take photos. Some of use (me, for example) prefer to use camera for that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Odd how we (meaning society) thinks everyone has a cell. 


It's close to being true. I don't think I know anyone who doesn't have one.


> Actually the first time I thought of it that way.  I've got 5 cameras here now,
> DSLR, 2 point and shot and a 35mm.   I guess I've had the phone too long now.


I have a smart phone. My wife has a cell phone, but it's an ancient 
flip-top, not a smart phone (even though I've offered to get her one, 
she doesn't want it; I don't know why, but my guess is that she's afraid 
it will be too difficult for her to learn how to use it).

Even though I have a smart phone with a camera, I very rarely use its 
camera function. These days I rarely take any pictures except when I'm 
on vacation, and when I do, I use the digital camera which I also take 
with me. I've only used my smart phone's camera a handful of times, and 
those times were when I was on vacation, had left the camera in my hotel 
room, and saw something I wanted a picture of. It's infrequent enough 
that I never remember how to use it, and I have to relearn it every time.

Leaving aside the question of which takes better pictures, I greatly 
prefer to use my camera's viewfinder rather than holding a smart phone a 
foot away from my eyes and trying to frame the shot. I never even use my 
camera's screen to frame the shot; in fact I always keep it turned off.

I similarly don't like point and shoot cameras. All my old film cameras 
are gone now. I had several 35mm cameras, a Rolleicord twin-lens reflex, 
2 4x5 view cameras, a 4x5 Speed Graphic, and a 4x5 Graflex (a 
single-lens reflex, if you're not familiar with it), and a few others. 
Many years ago, I was a photographer.

I also greatly prefer my digital camera because it has 18X optical zoom. 
Smart phones are never even close to that.



-- 
Ken

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Co I really have to take off the display, the lid? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2020-10-11 06:07 -0400
  Re: Co I really have to take off the display, the lid? Bill <WhoKnows@newsguy.net> - 2020-10-11 07:23 -0400
    Re: Co I really have to take off the display, the lid? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2020-10-11 09:26 -0400
      Re: Co I really have to take off the display, the lid? Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2020-10-11 10:21 -0400
        Re: Co I really have to take off the display, the lid? Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-10-11 08:07 -0700
          Re: Co I really have to take off the display, the lid? Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2020-10-11 11:11 -0400
            Re: Co I really have to take off the display, the lid? Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-10-11 13:28 -0700
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