Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Rene Lamontagne Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Re: Co I really have to take off the display, the lid? Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 10:30:37 -0500 Lines: 118 Message-ID: References: <6126ofl03ts39s5vd1f8eabn8ujj22s2ud@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net n2r66QMcIOMDItYCrhx3GwCGS7bLji2jLBztUSGIaS+hK9LMsX Cancel-Lock: sha1:oLVtz40W/vjCsF6pRkTCQJPhNP4= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 In-Reply-To: <6126ofl03ts39s5vd1f8eabn8ujj22s2ud@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.laptops:2545 alt.comp.os.windows-10:123314 On 2020-10-11 9:24 a.m., micky wrote: > In comp.sys.laptops, on Sun, 11 Oct 2020 08:19:34 -0400, Paul > wrote: > >> micky wrote: >>> In order to open my laptop and replace the fan, do I really have to take >>> off the display, the lid? >>> >>> It's a Dell Latitude E4300. >>> >>> The Dell service manual says to do this, but I find it hard to believe. >>> It looks like the Palm Rest is easy to slip from under the display. Only >>> 5mm. are under it and the empty space above the palm rest is 2 or 3 mm. >>> >>> I know I can wait and figure it out when the time comes, but I ike to >>> plan ahead. And know how much time to allot. >>> >>> Some random guy on the web for some other Dell laptop also says he had >>> to remove his display. OTOH, a video of someone cleaning the fan on >>> the E4310 shows him taking off every cover on the bottom of it. I think >>> some people just like to take everything apart. ;-) >> >> I'm not following what's going on here. >> >> https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Dell+Latitude+E4300+CPU+Cooling+Fan+Replacement/116140 > > In my opinion, you shoudln't spend any more time on t his than you have. > My question was meant to address only opeople who alr eady knew the > asnwer. Plus, I can read almost as well as you, and my reading was > tthat they say you have to remove the display. In fact I said that > But sometimes people know easier ways** to do things. > > But if you're curious and have time, this is the service manual. > > http://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_laptop/esuprt_latitude_laptop/latitude-e4300_service%20manual_en-us.pdf > > **I once had surgery in December, and it snowed and tthe snow was more > than half-way up my car's wheels, and I wasn't supposed to go out for > several weeks until my shoulder healed. One of my wheels didn't have > its wheel cover on (I don't know what happens now that so many cars > have no wheel covers or hubcaps) and in the spring I took my brother to > Newark airport. When I got back to the car, that tire was flat, and I > coudln't get the lug nuts off. > > Finally, by standing on, jumping up and down on, the lugwrench, I got it > off but broke 3 of the 5 studs. Or maybe 4. I lived in Brooklyn > What a responsible adult would do is find a garage in Newark to tow my > car in (on Sunday) and fix it on Monday, and I would talke public > transportation to Manhattan, and the subway to Brooklyn, then come back > the same way when the car was fixed. > > OR, I could drive home. > > When I went straight or turned left, the car was okay, but when I turned > right the wheel went clunk, clunk, clunk. > > If I still had 2 good studs when I left hte airport, at some point I > broke one. Then I got to the Holland Tunnel. If you break down there > they charge you a lot to take you out. They have a tow truck that sits > there 24/7 waiting for people to break down, so they have to pay for the > tow truck with the fees they charge, plus they're annoyed, so they > charge more. > > But I decided I'd drive through the Holland Tunnel. That went okay, > and I turned east on Walker St. NYC downtown is very quiet on Sunday > evening. Just before I got to Broadway, the last stud broke and the > wheel fell off the car. Phone call, I'll finish later. > >> They refer to a panel (or plate) underneath the keyboard. >> And a couple of screws in the back of that panel, fasten >> to the display somehow. Hinges ? I don't know. The description >> leaves a lot to be desired. >> >> Yes, it does look like the whole thing practically >> comes apart from the top down. Starting with the >> keyboard tub, and working your way down. >> >> They don't mention using a spudger to remove the bezel >> along the top of the keyboard area. I guess for the >> people who have done a thousand of these, it's no longer >> a thing to grit your teeth over. Some of them are >> hard to get out, without damage. That's the sign of a >> good repair person, is pulling that strip without >> leaving a mark. You could easily be tempted to use >> an edged tool, like say a wood chisel, and leave a lot >> of damage in your wake. > > More likely a steak knife. > > But a couple years ago I bought a set of laptop tools, and they may > help. > >> I guess you can't do it from the bottom, >> because you wouldn't be able to reach the fan >> connector on the top side of the PCB. The screws that >> hold the fan in, are also on the top side. > > Right. And the palm rest extends below the keyboard and has to be > removed to reach the fan. From the t op. >> >> ******* >> >> From the comments at the bottom... >> >> One Comment >> Add a comment >> >> I would rate this more moderate than easy. <=== :-) Honesty... >> >> Bob Green - 07/30/2019 >> >> Paul > Lots of luck. Rene