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Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal?

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On 01/25/2016 10:26 AM, jerryab@juno.com wrote:

>>>>>> How come Seagate -- to name just one manufacturer -- can sell an
>>>>>> external 6TB drive in a case with a USB 3.0 adapter and a cable for
>>>>>> less
>>>>>> than they sell any 6TB internal drive?
>>>>>
>>>>> reliability?

>>>> Hardly -- when the drive in the enclosure is the same one (at least in
>>>> some cases) as the one that is sold for more without the enclosure, wall
>>>> wart, and USB interface and cable.

>>> Warranty period.
>>>
>>> Internal drives typically have a 3-yr warranty. External devices are
>>> usually warranted for 1-2 yrs. So the drive mfr has passed the cost of
>>> service and replacement to the reseller. To make the cost of the
>>> external box acceptable, the cost of the drive (to the reseller) must
>>> be fairly low.
>>>
>>> Also remember, the reseller must buy a fairly large number of the
>>> drives in order to get the lower price. Thus, the drive mfr is getting
>>> a chunk of "cash now" and avoiding all those expenses in the future
>>> (warranty replacement, etc) related to those bulk-sale drives.
>>
>> The problem with that theory is that the same external
>> drive has a 3 year warranty here, but a 1 year warranty
>> in the US and is cheaper than the same drive bare here.
>
> Learn how businesses operate. The laws regarding warranties in other
> countries are not the same as the US.
>
>> The real reason they are often cheaper is just the usual
>> reason, they sell in higher volume than internal drives
>> in the retail market.

> Nope. They are all internal drives. All the external mfrs (OEMs) do is
> put the internal drives in external boxes and resell the package with
> a different warranty--one they create. This OEM warranty is not
> dependent on the drive manufacturer's warranty for an internal drive
> sold to the public. In the US, the drive manufacturer will not honor
> any warranty for the drives sold to the OEM unless the claim is made
> by the OEM against the drive manufacturer--which requires the consumer
> to return the device to the OEM for warranty service. If the device is
> out of the OEM's warranty, that is the end of all claims.

I was not talking about Seagate drives in "Brand X" enclosures: I was 
talking about Seagate-branded external drives vs. Seagate internal 
drives of the same capacity -- and in many cases the same model/part# as 
what is in the enclosure. IIRC, all have the same 2-year warranty.

Ii haven't looked at other makes.

Perce

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Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2015-09-10 10:46 -0400
  Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark Perkins <mark@none.invalid> - 2015-09-10 12:09 -0500
    Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark F <mark53916@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 15:05 -0400
      Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2015-09-10 20:27 +0000
        Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark Perkins <mark@none.invalid> - 2015-09-10 15:59 -0500
          Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 07:14 +1000
          Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2015-09-11 02:01 +0000
          Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? larrymoencurly@my-deja.com - 2015-09-17 21:58 -0700
            Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark Perkins <mark@none.invalid> - 2015-09-30 17:50 -0500
              Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> - 2015-09-30 19:58 -0700
              Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark F <mark53916@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 12:24 -0400
      Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2015-09-10 17:00 -0400
        Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2015-09-10 22:10 -0500
          Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 04:45 +1000
            Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2015-09-14 05:04 -0500
              Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 05:00 +1000
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2015-09-14 19:16 -0500
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> - 2015-09-15 00:03 -0700
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2015-09-15 18:57 -0500
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 13:14 +1000
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> - 2015-09-16 14:12 -0700
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 05:01 +1000
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2015-09-15 18:57 -0500
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 13:12 +1000
              Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? larrymoencurly@my-deja.com - 2015-09-17 22:50 -0700
        Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark F <mark53916@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 18:44 -0400
  Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 07:15 +1000
    Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2015-09-10 17:48 -0400
      Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark Perkins <mark@none.invalid> - 2015-09-10 21:08 -0500
  Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Sam <newsgroup2003@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 21:24 -0800
    Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-01-23 10:32 -0500
      Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? jerryab@juno.com - 2016-01-24 09:59 -0600
        Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 05:06 +1100
          Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? jerryab@juno.com - 2016-01-25 09:26 -0600
            Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 06:23 +1100
            Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-01-25 15:38 -0500
              Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-06-04 10:28 -0400
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 07:57 +1000
            Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> - 2016-01-25 16:38 -0800

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