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Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal?

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal?
Date 2016-01-26 06:23 +1100
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<jerryab@juno.com> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 05:06:56 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>><jerryab@juno.com> wrote in message
>>news:0qs9abhm24sfvpdp29aontccdg36t4rgtl@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 10:32:09 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
>>> <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 01/23/2016 12:24 AM, Sam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> How come Seagate -- to name just one manufacturer -- can sell an
>>>>>> external 6TB drive in a case with a USB 3.0 adapter and a cable for
>>>>>> less
>>>>>> than they sell any 6TB internal drive?
>>>>>
>>>>> reliability?
>>>>
>>>>Hardly -- when the drive in the enclosure is the same one (at least in
>>>>some cases) as the one that is sold for more without the enclosure, wall
>>>>wart, and USB interface and cable.
>>>>
>>>>Perce
>>>
>>> Warranty period.
>>>
>>> Internal drives typically have a 3-yr warranty. External devices are
>>> usually warranted for 1-2 yrs. So the drive mfr has passed the cost of
>>> service and replacement to the reseller. To make the cost of the
>>> external box acceptable, the cost of the drive (to the reseller) must
>>> be fairly low.
>>>
>>> Also remember, the reseller must buy a fairly large number of the
>>> drives in order to get the lower price. Thus, the drive mfr is getting
>>> a chunk of "cash now" and avoiding all those expenses in the future
>>> (warranty replacement, etc) related to those bulk-sale drives.
>>
>>The problem with that theory is that the same external
>>drive has a 3 year warranty here, but a 1 year warranty
>>in the US and is cheaper than the same drive bare here.
>
> Learn how businesses operate.

Ran more than one thanks.

> The laws regarding warranties in other
> countries are not the same as the US.

That longer warranty here isnt imposed by law.

>> The real reason they are often cheaper is just
>> the usual reason, they sell in higher volume
>> than internal drives in the retail market.

> Nope.

Yep.

> They are all internal drives.

Not in the retail market they aren't.

> All the external mfrs (OEMs)

Plenty of them are the manufacturer of the drive.

> do is put the internal drives in external boxes
> and resell the package with a different warranty
> --one they create. This OEM warranty

There is no OEM warranty with plenty of external drives.

> is not dependent on the drive manufacturer's
> warranty for an internal drive sold to the public.

But it is when there is no OEM and the manufacturer of the
drive is the manufacturer of the external format of the drive.

> In the US, the drive manufacturer will not honor any
> warranty for the drives sold to the OEM unless the claim
> is made by the OEM against the drive manufacturer--

There is no OEM with plenty of external drives.

> which requires the consumer to return the
> device to the OEM for warranty service.

The law varys on that world wide.

> If the device is out of the OEM's warranty,
> that is the end of all claims.

Its nothing like as black and white as that world wide. 

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Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2015-09-10 10:46 -0400
  Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark Perkins <mark@none.invalid> - 2015-09-10 12:09 -0500
    Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark F <mark53916@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 15:05 -0400
      Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2015-09-10 20:27 +0000
        Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark Perkins <mark@none.invalid> - 2015-09-10 15:59 -0500
          Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 07:14 +1000
          Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2015-09-11 02:01 +0000
          Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? larrymoencurly@my-deja.com - 2015-09-17 21:58 -0700
            Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark Perkins <mark@none.invalid> - 2015-09-30 17:50 -0500
              Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> - 2015-09-30 19:58 -0700
              Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark F <mark53916@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 12:24 -0400
      Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2015-09-10 17:00 -0400
        Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2015-09-10 22:10 -0500
          Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 04:45 +1000
            Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2015-09-14 05:04 -0500
              Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 05:00 +1000
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2015-09-14 19:16 -0500
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> - 2015-09-15 00:03 -0700
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2015-09-15 18:57 -0500
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 13:14 +1000
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> - 2015-09-16 14:12 -0700
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 05:01 +1000
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2015-09-15 18:57 -0500
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 13:12 +1000
              Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? larrymoencurly@my-deja.com - 2015-09-17 22:50 -0700
        Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark F <mark53916@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 18:44 -0400
  Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 07:15 +1000
    Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2015-09-10 17:48 -0400
      Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Mark Perkins <mark@none.invalid> - 2015-09-10 21:08 -0500
  Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Sam <newsgroup2003@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 21:24 -0800
    Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-01-23 10:32 -0500
      Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? jerryab@juno.com - 2016-01-24 09:59 -0600
        Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 05:06 +1100
          Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? jerryab@juno.com - 2016-01-25 09:26 -0600
            Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 06:23 +1100
            Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-01-25 15:38 -0500
              Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-06-04 10:28 -0400
                Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 07:57 +1000
            Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> - 2016-01-25 16:38 -0800

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