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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage |
| Subject | Re: Why are external drives cheaper than internal? |
| Date | 2015-09-14 05:04 -0500 |
| Organization | Old Usenet Denizen |
| Message-ID | <d5nkdhFal90U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Rod Speed wrote:
> VanguardLH wrote
>
>> Unless you void the warranty by opening the external's case to see
>> what drive model is in there,
>
> You don't void the warranty by checking what drive is in there
Opening the enclosure for a pre-built external drive does not void the
warranty?
Some cases are designed to snap together. Prying the half shells apart
often breaks off a tang or lip which is a telltale sign of opening the
case. Some put stickers on. If the seal is broke, removed, defaced,
altered, tampered, or rendered unintelligble then warranty is voided.
Some put a seal on the inside. Some require screws be removed and they
are below the label so you have to puncture the label to get at the
screws.
If they didn't care about boobs getting inside their cases, why put
seals on the case, put screws under labels, or use snap-together cases
that get damaged when forcibly unsnapped?
> and you don't have to open the case to work that out either.
How is that performed (to get at the firmware string from the HDD
through the USB-to-SATA converter PCB)?
After I plug in a USB HDD, all I see is it enumerated as a USB device of
type "USB Mass Storage Device". When I go in the registry under:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USBSTOR
I see nothing that identifies brand and model of the HDD inside the
external USB case. The subkey under there is named:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USBSTOR\Disk&Ven____Mass&Prod_Storage_Device&Rev_
So there is not VID (Vendor ID) or PID (Product ID) in the naming of the
enumeration key by which I could identify the HDD on the other side of
the USB-to-SATA converter inside the USB enclosure. The "Mfg" data
item's value points to disk.inf with a pointer of genmanufacturer so
that doesn't tell which brand or model, either.
Device Management (devmgmt.msc) and its console-mode kin devcon.exe is
not going to show me more than the enumerated info in the registry.
When I use USB Viewer, all it says for the USB device is:
---===>Device Information<===---
English product name: "USB Mass Storage Device"
ConnectionStatus:
Current Config Value: 0x01 -> Device Bus Speed: High
Device Address: 0x02
Open Pipes: 2
===>Endpoint Descriptor<===
bLength: 0x07
bDescriptorType: 0x05
bEndpointAddress: 0x81 -> Direction: IN - EndpointID: 1
bmAttributes: 0x02 -> Bulk Transfer Type
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 = 0x200 max bytes
bInterval: 0x00
===>Endpoint Descriptor<===
bLength: 0x07
bDescriptorType: 0x05
bEndpointAddress: 0x02 -> Direction: OUT - EndpointID: 2
bmAttributes: 0x02 -> Bulk Transfer Type
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 = 0x200 max bytes
bInterval: 0x00
===>Device Descriptor<===
bLength: 0x12
bDescriptorType: 0x01
bcdUSB: 0x0200
bDeviceClass: 0x00 -> This is an Interface Class Defined Device
bDeviceSubClass: 0x00
bDeviceProtocol: 0x00
bMaxPacketSize0: 0x40 = (64) Bytes
idVendor: 0x14CD = MOAI ELECTRONICS CORPORATION
idProduct: 0x6116
bcdDevice: 0x0220
iManufacturer: 0x01
English (United States) "Generic "
iProduct: 0x03
English (United States) "USB Mass Storage Device"
iSerialNumber: 0x02
English (United States) "116AC2101219"
bNumConfigurations: 0x01
===>Configuration Descriptor<===
bLength: 0x09
bDescriptorType: 0x02
wTotalLength: 0x0020 -> Validated
bNumInterfaces: 0x01
bConfigurationValue: 0x01
iConfiguration: 0x00
bmAttributes: 0xC0 -> Bus Powered
MaxPower: 0x01 = 2 mA
===>Interface Descriptor<===
bLength: 0x09
bDescriptorType: 0x04
bInterfaceNumber: 0x00
bAlternateSetting: 0x00
bNumEndpoints: 0x02
bInterfaceClass: 0x08 -> This is a Mass Storage USB Device Interface Class
bInterfaceSubClass: 0x06
bInterfaceProtocol: 0x50
iInterface: 0x00
===>Endpoint Descriptor<===
bLength: 0x07
bDescriptorType: 0x05
bEndpointAddress: 0x81 -> Direction: IN - EndpointID: 1
bmAttributes: 0x02 -> Bulk Transfer Type
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 = 0x200 max bytes
bInterval: 0x00
===>Endpoint Descriptor<===
bLength: 0x07
bDescriptorType: 0x05
bEndpointAddress: 0x02 -> Direction: OUT - EndpointID: 2
bmAttributes: 0x02 -> Bulk Transfer Type
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 = 0x200 max bytes
bInterval: 0x00
So I can get USB info (presentation data) up to the USB interface inside
the USB enclosure (the USB side of the USB-to-SATA converter PCB) but
nothing about what HDD is on the SATA side of the USB-to-SATA converter.
Make and model are not identified in the enumeration of the USB drive.
So what program could I use to get past the USB-to-SATA converter PCB to
get the HDD's firmware string used to identify it?
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