Re: IIgs questions

From	awanderin <awanderin@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: IIgs questions
Date	2017-09-04 23:13 -0600
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Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> writes:

> On Sun, 3 Sep 2017, Polymorph wrote:
>
>> On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 1:59:41 AM UTC+10, roger....@gmail.com wrote:
>>> There is little value in trying to debate with fanatics.
>>>
>>> So this reply is for those who need to kill some time. :-)
>>
>> OK... so I've got a couple of minutes to kill. :-)
>>
>> This topic was *always* going to be polarising, so I'm not sure why
>> anyone is surprised. Many people are 8 bit purists, whilst others
>> enjoy the 16 bit side of the IIgs. Surely people are entitled to
>> their own opinions?
>
> :P
>
>> I'm not sure which graphics mode you are talking about with regards
>> to the IIgs? The IIgs has 2 super hires modes that set it apart from
>> the 8 bit machines:
>>  1) 320×200 (3200 colours, selectable from 4,096 colour palette)
>>  2) 640×200 (800 colours, selectable from 4,096 colour palette)
>>
>> The IIgs does have a limitation of only allowing colours from one
>> pallete to be used per scanline, but you can switch palletes between
>> scanlines. I'm no C64 expert, but I'm pretty confident it couldn't
>> compete with a IIgs, in fact the IIgs' graphics IMHO is better than
>> an Atari ST (at least in terms of resolution and colour depth). The
>> IIgs does have a 1 MHz graphics bus which means the system has to
>> slow down to 1 MHz when refreshing the display.
>
> Parity.  Possibly more colors total, but it's still 320x200x16/640x200x4.
>
> The C64's usual mode was only 160x200 with 16 fixed colors which had
> some limitations as to how you could use them, or 320x200 with further
> limitations.  Absolutely the GS would crush it.

Except that the C-64 had programmable character graphics, hardware
scrolling registers, and sprites.  These three things made it easier to
do various games at 30 frames/second.

So, visually yes, the IIgs' graphics were much better.  But
animation-wise, it was harder to do animation and scrolling at the same
speed and with similar simplicity of code.

[...]

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