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| Started by | Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2011-07-30 19:51 +0100 |
| Last post | 2011-08-02 09:38 +0100 |
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Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-07-30 19:51 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-07-30 23:23 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-07-31 06:59 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? "Rob Hemmings (news2)" <robnews@rgvk.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 08:24 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-07-31 09:27 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-07-31 10:37 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-07-31 10:49 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-07-31 11:24 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-07-31 12:32 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 13:45 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-07-31 14:32 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-08-01 11:01 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 18:25 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 13:01 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 18:33 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-07-31 23:47 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-08-01 00:11 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-08-01 00:29 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-08-01 00:06 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-01 08:54 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Ian Hamilton <Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> - 2011-08-01 09:11 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-01 09:25 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-08-01 11:47 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-02 10:39 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 22:59 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-02 22:37 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 22:55 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-08-02 23:19 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 06:51 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-03 08:52 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 11:59 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 11:59 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 15:11 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 20:26 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Martin Thomas <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2011-08-03 21:28 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-04 12:15 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Martin Thomas <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2011-08-04 12:27 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 01:37 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 06:11 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 10:05 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 09:35 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 12:26 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 14:10 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 17:17 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 01:48 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-08-03 23:25 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 09:53 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 07:50 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 08:04 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer "Barry Allen (news)" <evanallen@onetel.net.uk.invalid> - 2011-08-08 08:26 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 20:07 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 16:49 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 01:23 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 01:27 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down no longer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 00:44 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-02 11:15 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Kevin Wells <kevinwells@talktalk.net> - 2011-08-02 11:56 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-02 14:00 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Kevin Wells <kevinwells@talktalk.net> - 2011-08-02 14:48 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 13:49 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 15:43 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 00:02 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-02 16:04 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 17:26 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 18:22 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 23:04 +0200
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-02 22:39 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-08-03 09:51 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2011-08-03 12:24 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-08-03 23:50 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 09:14 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 10:53 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Kevin Wells <kevinwells@talktalk.net> - 2011-08-04 13:03 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-08-01 10:00 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-07-31 10:59 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? "Rob Hemmings (news2)" <robnews@rgvk.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 11:18 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Andrew Conroy <a.m.conroy@owlart.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 11:30 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2011-08-01 18:46 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting (Spellings) down? Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 09:38 +0100
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| From | Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-02 15:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <037b7efc51.chris@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1285 |
In message <611274fc51.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>
Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> Steve Fryatt posted:
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/#!/purleyhosting
> which required Javascript.
> this suggestion from Ian Hamilton worked:
>>>> http://mobile.twitter.com/purleyhosting
> Kevin Wells wrote on 2 Aug:
>> if you ignore the /#! from [Steve's] url it works OK with Netsurf:
>> http://twitter.com/purleyhosting
> OK, i'll keep this as a little URL file in my Purleyhosting admin
> folder, for quick doubleclick in case of any future outage.
> a question, however: how were we twits supposed to know that status
> reports would be on Twitter? can anyone else find any mention of it
> among emails or renewal notices or invoices from Purley?
I believe it was something fairly new, but it is mentioned on their
Support pages.
> i have never otherwise used Twitter and have no intention of doing so.
Nor I, but since I don't have to register to access this feed have
bookmarked the webpage for future reference.
--
Chris Hughes
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| From | Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-03 00:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <253eacfc51.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> |
| In reply to | #1286 |
> Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote: >> a question, however: how were we twits supposed to know that status >> reports would be on Twitter? can anyone else find any mention of it >> among emails or renewal notices or invoices from Purley? Chris Hughes wrote on 2 Aug: > I believe it was something fairly new, but it is mentioned on their > Support pages. fat lot of use that is when the site is down. -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk >> "from" address is genuine but will change. website has current one.
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-02 16:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <51fc807112see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1285 |
In article <611274fc51.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote: > Steve Fryatt posted: > >>>>> http://twitter.com/#!/purleyhosting > which required Javascript. > this suggestion from Ian Hamilton worked: > >>> http://mobile.twitter.com/purleyhosting > Kevin Wells wrote on 2 Aug: > > if you ignore the /#! from [Steve's] url it works OK > > with Netsurf: http://twitter.com/purleyhosting > OK, i'll keep this as a little URL file in my > Purleyhosting admin folder, for quick doubleclick in case > of any future outage. > a question, however: how were we twits supposed to know > that status reports would be on Twitter? can anyone else > find any mention of it among emails or renewal notices or > invoices from Purley? > i have never otherwise used Twitter and have no intention > of doing so. Likewise. I have been in touch with Neil by e-mail: I suggested that a newsgroup would have been more suitable - Plusnet certainly used to do this, not sure if they still do. He says that "The reason we chose Twitter is that its very easy to post updates using a mobile device which means it works anywhere with 3G reception. For newsgroup access, I would need access to a PC. One of the issues we had at the weekend was I had no internet access for much of the weekend, which made it very difficult to understand the nature of the issue, and post updates." He also admitted that he should have put on a suitable answerphone message before Sunday evening. I would have thought that if one has mobile internet access, then one can post to a newsgroup, though perhaps marginally more hassle than tweeting? I have now bookmarked http://mobile.twitter.com/purleyhosting which should mean that I do not need to use it ever again. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-02 17:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ant021658313pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1287 |
In article <51fc807112see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, Russell Hafter News <URL:mailto:see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > I have been in touch with Neil by e-mail: I suggested that a > newsgroup would have been more suitable - Plusnet certainly > used to do this, not sure if they still do. > > He says that "The reason we chose Twitter is that its very > easy to post updates using a mobile device which means it > works anywhere with 3G reception. > > For newsgroup access, I would need access to a PC. > > One of the issues we had at the weekend was I had no > internet access for much of the weekend, which made it very > difficult to understand the nature of the issue, and post > updates." > > He also admitted that he should have put on a suitable > answerphone message before Sunday evening. > > I would have thought that if one has mobile internet access, > then one can post to a newsgroup, Sort of. IIUIC you can post a 'tweet' just by sending an SMS text message. Posting to a newsgroup though possible is not something I'd want to try with phone. > though perhaps marginally > more hassle than tweeting? A lot more I'd have thought! > I have now bookmarked > http://mobile.twitter.com/purleyhosting which should mean > that I do not need to use it ever again. > Chris Evans -- CJE Micro's / 4D 'RISC OS Specialists' Telephone: 01903 523222 Fax: 01903 523679 chris@cjemicros.co.uk http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/ 78 Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex, BN11 2EN The most beautiful thing anyone can wear, is a smile!
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| From | Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-02 18:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <60158dfc51.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1287 |
On 2 Aug 2011 Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
wrote:
> In article <611274fc51.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel
> <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
>> Steve Fryatt posted:
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/#!/purleyhosting
>> which required Javascript.
>> this suggestion from Ian Hamilton worked:
>>>>> http://mobile.twitter.com/purleyhosting
>> Kevin Wells wrote on 2 Aug:
>>> if you ignore the /#! from [Steve's] url it works OK
>>> with Netsurf: http://twitter.com/purleyhosting
>> OK, i'll keep this as a little URL file in my
>> Purleyhosting admin folder, for quick doubleclick in case
>> of any future outage.
>> a question, however: how were we twits supposed to know
>> that status reports would be on Twitter? can anyone else
>> find any mention of it among emails or renewal notices or
>> invoices from Purley?
>> i have never otherwise used Twitter and have no intention
>> of doing so.
> Likewise.
> I have been in touch with Neil by e-mail: I suggested that a
> newsgroup would have been more suitable - Plusnet certainly
> used to do this, not sure if they still do.
Argonet, then Orpheus, in the days of the lamented Paul, used to have
an RSS feed, which I found very useful. However, this was abandoned
well before Paul's tragic death. Pity!
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
and \/ __ __ \ England.
family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/ \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-02 23:04 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <4e38665e$0$18817$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #1287 |
On 02/08/2011 17:04, Russell Hafter News wrote:
> I would have thought that if one has mobile internet access,
> then one can post to a newsgroup, though perhaps marginally
> more hassle than tweeting?
You can get Twitter apps for smartphones which probably make tweeting
about as simple as can be. ;-)
The thing with newsgroups is that there is a dark side to Usenet (look
for newzbin or somesuch and you'll know what I mean). Perhaps because of
this, on my Orange (France) contract, nntp is *specifically* prohibited
[*]. I can POP, IMAP, SSH, SFTP, and so on - but nntp just times out...
Best wishes,
Rick.
* - as is "P2P", but I don't know what ports that uses; so with banning
P2P and Usenet, it would appear to be obvious what they don't want
on the mobile network
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-02 22:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <51fca4a43csee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1294 |
In article <4e38665e$0$18817$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On 02/08/2011 17:04, Russell Hafter News wrote: > > I would have thought that if one has mobile internet > > access, then one can post to a newsgroup, though > > perhaps marginally more hassle than tweeting? > You can get Twitter apps for smartphones which probably > make tweeting about as simple as can be. ;-) > The thing with newsgroups is that there is a dark side to > Usenet And there is no 'dark side' to the world wide web? Probably much darker in places than much of usenet -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-08-03 09:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <a52ae2fc51.jess@itworkshop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1287 |
In message <51fc807112see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
wrote:
> I would have thought that if one has mobile internet access,
> then one can post to a newsgroup, though perhaps marginally
> more hassle than tweeting?
If he was using a smartphone, then if would be far more trouble.
Google groups *might* work, but google apps seem very hit and miss on
low end browsers. And it would still have needed to be moderated.
--
Jess Iyonix
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| From | Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-03 12:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <51fcf022ffnoise@audiomisc.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1287 |
In article <51fc807112see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > I have been in touch with Neil by e-mail: I suggested that a newsgroup > would have been more suitable - Plusnet certainly used to do this, not > sure if they still do. > He says that "The reason we chose Twitter is that its very easy to post > updates using a mobile device which means it works anywhere with 3G > reception. I'm not quite sure what "updates" people would be essential beyond. A) Telling people asap that the service was down, give some simple details, and say it will be fixed asap. Estimated timescale *if* possible. B) Telling people that is now works and what the problem was. I'm taking apologies or regrets for granted. :-) > For newsgroup access, I would need access to a PC. Must say it seems a surprise to me that someone who maintains a service like this doesn't have a 'PC' they can use or even know anyone else who would (let them) post (A) to usenet. Not even a 'phone a friend' who would post on a relevant (set of) group(s)? But simply doing (A) on their answerphone *immediately* the problem is detected would help. And ensuring the number is on all bills, etc. However I appreciate that it is seen as 'modern' and 'like the blessed Steven Fry' to produce a 'stream of [un]consciousness' by continuously being a twit. So 'old' methods that have worked fine in the past may have faded from memory... :-) Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html
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| From | Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-03 23:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mpro.lpdjgo020utao01kr.news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #1318 |
On 3 Aug, Jim Lesurf wrote in message
<51fcf022ffnoise@audiomisc.co.uk>:
> In article <51fc807112see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, Russell Hafter
> News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
>
> > For newsgroup access, I would need access to a PC.
>
> Must say it seems a surprise to me that someone who maintains a service
> like this doesn't have a 'PC' they can use or even know anyone else who
> would (let them) post (A) to usenet.
I think you're taking that out of context. AIUI, when the server broke,
Neil was away for a weekend sailing -- it doesn't seem unreasonable for him
not to have had immediate access to a standard PC in that situation (or any
similar ones).
> However I appreciate that it is seen as 'modern' and 'like the blessed
> Steven Fry' to produce a 'stream of [un]consciousness' by continuously
> being a twit. So 'old' methods that have worked fine in the past may have
> faded from memory... :-)
TBH, it was more convenient for me to check the Twitter feed via a browser
once I'd remembered it, than to phone and listen to the recorded
announcement.
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/
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| From | Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-04 09:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <51fd628f42noise@audiomisc.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1327 |
In article <mpro.lpdjgo020utao01kr.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: > On 3 Aug, Jim Lesurf wrote in message <51fcf022ffnoise@audiomisc.co.uk>: > > In article <51fc807112see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, Russell > > Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > > > > > For newsgroup access, I would need access to a PC. > > > > Must say it seems a surprise to me that someone who maintains a > > service like this doesn't have a 'PC' they can use or even know anyone > > else who would (let them) post (A) to usenet. > I think you're taking that out of context. AIUI, when the server broke, > Neil was away for a weekend sailing Alas, I don't recall anyone explaining that context. But it does raise the point that if someone provides servers - which users may expect to need 24/7 - then they may have to make some arrangements for when 'away'. I presume he didn't try to *fix* the problem whilst sailing (?) so might then have gained access to a 'PC' when doing so. And note my 'phone a friend' comments. If you can 'twit' then can you not also make a phone call or send a message in some other way? It did all remind me of a recent experience of opening some bulky and complex packaging to find the instructions for opening *inside* the packing! > -- it doesn't seem unreasonable for > him not to have had immediate access to a standard PC in that situation > (or any similar ones). Again, I didn't notice the qualifier "immediate". > > However I appreciate that it is seen as 'modern' and 'like the blessed > > Steven Fry' to produce a 'stream of [un]consciousness' by continuously > > being a twit. So 'old' methods that have worked fine in the past may > > have faded from memory... :-) > TBH, it was more convenient for me to check the Twitter feed via a > browser once I'd remembered it, than to phone and listen to the recorded > announcement. Yes, I am sure some would find it convenient. But were all customers made aware of this in advance, and all so found it? The comments I read in thread made it look otherwise to me. I quite appreciate Sod's Law and that things wait to go wrong until the worst moment. Also that it can be demanding to run a small or one-man business, so I do have sympathy. But TBH I am not sure all paying customers would have been happy with the 'explanations' I read and commented upon. Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html
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| From | Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-08-04 10:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d0a36bfd51.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> |
| In reply to | #1327 |
Steve Fryatt wrote on 3 Aug:
> TBH, it was more convenient for me to check the Twitter feed via a browser
> once I'd remembered it, than to phone and listen to the recorded
> announcement.
that's the rub: "once i'd remembered it". many customers had never
heard of the Twitter link in the first place. myself, i first heard
of it from your post here on this thread, Steve -- and even then it
was unusable until somebody else posted the mobile version. (later,
somebody else said to leave out the "/#!" that was in the middle of
the link you gave.)
if the Twitter link is given on the support pages of Purley Hosting's
website, well, that's no use when the site is down.
an automated email has just arrived here from Purley with the annual
invoice attached.
i wrote back (cross but polite) saying these are unacceptable in their
present form; would they please add a line to their templates for
invoice and email so that customers will have these links to hand so
that this frustration does not arise again.
it seems reasonable enough that they should take any opportunity to
communicate the telephone number for status message and, OK, the link
to Twitter, but (since many of their customers use Netsurf), the
javascript-free version.
so, for the record, here is the essential info:
0844 772 0844
http://twitter.com/purleyhosting
http://mobile.twitter.com/purleyhosting
and may the next need for it not come soon.
--
Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk
>> "from" address is genuine but will change. website has current one.
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| From | Kevin Wells <kevinwells@talktalk.net> |
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| Date | 2011-08-04 13:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <318a77fd51.Kevin@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #1332 |
In message <d0a36bfd51.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>
Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
>Steve Fryatt wrote on 3 Aug:
>> TBH, it was more convenient for me to check the Twitter feed via a browser
>> once I'd remembered it, than to phone and listen to the recorded
>> announcement.
>
>that's the rub: "once i'd remembered it". many customers had never
>heard of the Twitter link in the first place. myself, i first heard
>of it from your post here on this thread, Steve -- and even then it
>was unusable until somebody else posted the mobile version. (later,
>somebody else said to leave out the "/#!" that was in the middle of
>the link you gave.)
>
Twitter has rss feeds for each account, so if you have Hermes you can
have the Purley twitter rss feed delivered to your inbox.
[snip]
--
Kev Wells http://riscos.kevsoft.co.uk/
http://kevsoft.co.uk/ http://kevsoft.co.uk/AleQuest/
ICQ 238580561
I am not an Alcoholic I am a Drunk. Alcoholics go to meetings.
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| From | cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid |
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| Date | 2011-08-01 10:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <6a3fdbfb51.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com> |
| In reply to | #1268 |
In message <51fbd547dfsee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <mpro.lp806g0pazzv401kw.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve
> Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Is the support number the 0844 772 0844 one that
> > > appears on their Facebook page? I'm beginning to think
> > > that it might come in handy after all...
[snip]
>
> > http://twitter.com/#!/purleyhosting
>
How about :-
http://mobile.twitter.com/purleyhosting
--
Colin Ferris Cornwall UK
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| From | Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-07-31 10:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <51fb5ce3f2bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1246 |
> In article <51fb46e6e9bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, > Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote: > > No means of knowing what is going on and no means to report a problem. Sorry to reply to my own post but I've just tried telephoning Purley Hosting and they answered! To their credit they were there and clearly working on the problem. The guy I spoke to said he hoped to get email back up later today. Bob. -- Bob Latham Stourbridge, West Midlands
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| From | "Rob Hemmings (news2)" <robnews@rgvk.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-07-31 11:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <51fb5e91cfrobnews@rgvk.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1252 |
In article <51fb5ce3f2bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote: > > In article <51fb46e6e9bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, > > Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote: > > > No means of knowing what is going on and no means to report a problem. > Sorry to reply to my own post but I've just tried telephoning Purley > Hosting and they answered! To their credit they were there and clearly > working on the problem. The guy I spoke to said he hoped to get email back > up later today. > Bob. Thanks for the information - that is a relief! -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hemmings Southport robnews@rgvk.co.uk
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| From | Andrew Conroy <a.m.conroy@owlart.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-07-31 11:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <51fb5fb133a.m.conroy@owlart.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1243 |
In article <9ab809fb51.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>,
Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> anyone else unable to connect to servers at Purley Hosting
> (or spellings.net) today?
It went down yesterday (Saturday) whilst I was updating the CJE website
(we're hosted by Purley Hosting). Glad others are experiencing this, I
thought I'd crashed the server doing the update!! As a side-effect to
this, when it comes back up, the CJE site may be in an indeterminate
state as it was halfway through an upload when it all fell apart!
Andrew
--
+----------------------------------------+---------------------------------+
| Andrew Conroy, Owl-Art Un-Ltd. | email: a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk |
| Coming to you on an Acorn RiscPC SA110 | |
+----------------------------------------+---------------------------------+
The impossible I can do at once, miracles take a little longer!!
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| From | Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-08-01 18:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mpro.lp9g1m003p588024c@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid> |
| In reply to | #1255 |
Andrew Conroy <a.m.conroy@owlart.co.uk> wrote: > In article <9ab809fb51.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>, > Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote: > > anyone else unable to connect to servers at Purley Hosting > > (or spellings.net) today? > > It went down yesterday (Saturday) whilst I was updating the CJE website > (we're hosted by Purley Hosting). Glad others are experiencing this, I > thought I'd crashed the server doing the update!! As a side-effect to > this, when it comes back up, the CJE site may be in an indeterminate > state as it was halfway through an upload when it all fell apart! That suggests you're updating a set of active files. It might be wiser to keep two or more sets of files online with a selection made between one and the other. For example you could run the live version of the site from a directory called \live\... and the other via \update\... Then upload all the file changes into the latter set of directories and when they're there rename \live\ to \lastset\ and \update\ to \live\ or something along those lines. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. Email sent to my from-address will be deleted. Instead, please reply to newsreplyaaa@wingsandbeaks.org.uk replacing "aaa" by "284".
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| From | Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-08-02 09:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ant020823d07pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #1274 |
In article <mpro.lp9g1m003p588024c@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>, Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <URL:mailto:jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> wrote: > Andrew Conroy <a.m.conroy@owlart.co.uk> wrote: > > > In article <9ab809fb51.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>, > > Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote: > > > anyone else unable to connect to servers at Purley Hosting > > > (or spellings.net) today? > > > > It went down yesterday (Saturday) whilst I was updating the CJE website > > (we're hosted by Purley Hosting). Glad others are experiencing this, I > > thought I'd crashed the server doing the update!! As a side-effect to > > this, when it comes back up, the CJE site may be in an indeterminate > > state as it was halfway through an upload when it all fell apart! > > That suggests you're updating a set of active files. It might be wiser to > keep two or more sets of files online with a selection made between one and > the other. For example you could run the live version of the site from a > directory called > > \live\... > > and the other via \update\... Then upload all the file changes into the > latter set of directories and when they're there rename > > \live\ to \lastset\ > > and > \update\ to \live\ > > or something along those lines. Yes we do that for some parts of the site, but there are some files that are easier just uploading and 99% of the time are o.k. e.g. deleting 'live' and renaming 'update' can take longer than just uploading a small file! There is also memory constraints we didn't used to have enough disc space to keep two copies of our prodimages directory. Chris Evans -- CJE Micro's / 4D 'RISC OS Specialists' Telephone: 01903 523222 Fax: 01903 523679 chris@cjemicros.co.uk http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/ 78 Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex, BN11 2EN The most beautiful thing anyone can wear, is a smile!
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